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1 posted on 12/06/2022 5:47:22 PM PST by Hojczyk
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Let’s put the cost factor in there. No one has come up with the actual cost to fuel these beasts.


2 posted on 12/06/2022 5:49:03 PM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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what happens when there’s no coal and nuke plants? What happens indeed?

Turd world government here we come.


3 posted on 12/06/2022 5:49:25 PM PST by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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BS


4 posted on 12/06/2022 5:50:07 PM PST by Osage Orange
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Power station Don’t burn gasoline, they burn NG. Cars don’t burn NG, they burn gasoline. The author is introducing a confusion factor to suck in the gullible.


5 posted on 12/06/2022 5:52:32 PM PST by TexasGator (!!!)
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Does anyone have a stopwatch as to when two individuals on FR, enter this thread to tell anyone who doesn’t worship Elon Musk and EVs, they’re a Neanderthal.


6 posted on 12/06/2022 5:53:02 PM PST by qaz123
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I say again. Over the last eleven years, electric vehicles in the US have saved Two. Days. Worth. Of. Gasoline.

Mmmkay, gotta start somewhere I guess…

7 posted on 12/06/2022 5:56:11 PM PST by broken_clock (Go Trump! Still praying.)
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If I eat 5 pounds of rice instead of 5 pounds of pasta, I’ve saved 5 pounds of pasta.


8 posted on 12/06/2022 6:00:45 PM PST by fruser1
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Direct taxpayer subsidies for EVs have cost you and me $10 billion dollars to date, and we’re on the hook for more. The government just extended the EV subsidy until 2032 and removed the cap on the number of vehicles eligible for the subsidy.

This irks me the most - you and I are subsidizing all those Teslas on the road.

10 posted on 12/06/2022 6:05:04 PM PST by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. )
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What about all of the extra energy used just moving the heavy mass of the batteries around. That takes up a lot of energy that gas cars do not use. We are being sold a bunch of crap about EV's. There are so many ways that EV's are just hype.

Good Hunting... from Varmint Al

11 posted on 12/06/2022 6:05:27 PM PST by Varmint Al
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So to date, we’re spending TWENTY-THREE DOLLARS for each gallon of gasoline saved … economic suicide.

Unbelievable.

12 posted on 12/06/2022 6:05:42 PM PST by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. )
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Should read -

Saving America with Electric Chairs


18 posted on 12/06/2022 6:12:52 PM PST by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh
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I am not sure what the converter from coal/natural gas fired plant is to EV.

I mean this. If 20 gallons of oil is good for 500 miles is a convention car, how much extra coal or natural gas is used to get that same 500 miles in a similar car?

I figure that a power plant rarely operates at 100% capacity. stuff is burned, a giant turbine is turned, electricity is created. Is more coal burned during peak operation to turn the turbine faster, or to turn more of them?

Also, once the energy is converted electricity, is an electric motor more efficient than a internal combustion engine. A Chevy Volt had its gas to electricity on board. A miniature power plant, if you will, and its gasoline to electricity output appeared decent. I would think that a giant power plant would be even more efficent, of course the distance the power travels can come into play. No one on either side ever suggests a range of tangible numbers for the consumption of regular folks.

My question put another way is, does 100,000 btu of coal to create electricity to move a car move it farther than 100,000 btu of oil?


19 posted on 12/06/2022 6:13:21 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (What was 35% of the Rep. Party is now 85%. And it’s too late to turn back—Mac Stipanovich )
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Electric vehicles are good for the environment and the GAIA Erf Mother -
Because they don't cause any pollution at all.

/Sarc

21 posted on 12/06/2022 6:19:41 PM PST by GaltAdonis
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EV’s do save gas. Because of range anxiety, owners don’t travel much, staying off the road when they’d otherwise be burning gas.


22 posted on 12/06/2022 6:20:50 PM PST by roadcat
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And where is the analysis that shows how much energy is expended creating the batteries, wind towers and solar collectors?


23 posted on 12/06/2022 6:22:13 PM PST by Portcall24
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We need a perpetual energy source, a perpetual motion machine.

It seems like everytime we exert effort to distill alcohol or transmit electricity or move energy fro a to b we lose a little.

That has got to stop. sarc needed?


26 posted on 12/06/2022 6:23:41 PM PST by spintreebob (ki .)
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Technology isn’t here yet,
Ideal would be electric, with Hydrogen based fuel cells.
We just can’t capture all the energy the sun gives us.
If we could, it would be Jake.
It isn’t wind, and our solar cells ain’t all that great.
Need fusion power, miniature suns. Other than bombs we aren’t doing very good with fusion.


29 posted on 12/06/2022 6:33:05 PM PST by rellic
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That’s not even looking at what it takes to get this battery technology out there. I’m willing to bet that it is zero gallons, or near that when you add it all up.


49 posted on 12/06/2022 7:02:37 PM PST by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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Wait till they realize there is only enough lithium to power 10B leaf cars. I think tesla uses larger batteries, so fewer cars.


52 posted on 12/06/2022 7:19:09 PM PST by kvanbrunt2
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How well does Earth absorb lithium abuse?


94 posted on 12/06/2022 9:05:25 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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