The Fake News is actually trying to convince the American People that I said I wanted to "terminate" the Constitution

Truth Social ^ | 11/5/2022 | Donald J. Trump

[StAnDeliver]

"I think Trump’s “Damn the Constitution” tweet is HIS “Dean Scream”. It plays into the worries voters already had about Trump."

That is absurd. He posted something, in text, that has a net reach of 513K users max (that is, as has been, Truth Social's peak daily user record since April). It was left to journolists too stupid to understand what the President actually said, to attempt to parse it to their mush-minded cabals.

Meanwhile, in stark contrast, the Dean Scream in 2004 led the freaking evening news when the evening news was the only optix mass communication method, and nearly 23 MILLION saw the Dean Scream, repeatedly.

Furthermore, nothing about Trump's statement dissociated himself from his base.

But with the Dean Scream, Democrats had all-too-recent memories of Muskie's breakdown, Eagleton's electroshock, Bubba's pecadillos -- and it turned out that indeed, Dean was a nutroot.

So you can have your opinion, but the facts support something else entirely.

[Bruce Campbells Chin]

The Dean Scream was a classic. It became fodder on morning radio shows, and he never recovered from dit.

I think the first big blow was "DeSanctimonious.". DeSantis is an extraordinarily popular figure among other Republican politicians because he showed that you can stand up very firmly against the left, and actually become more popular as a result. Going from a squeaker election in 2018 to a 19-point trouncing in 2022 was amazing. And then Trump took a needlessly nasty cheap shot at him.

I think this one was even worse. He basically just played right into Liz Chaney's hands. And perhaps even worse, he knocked Elon Musk's Twitter revelations right off the front page of the national conversation.

It's an own goal of the worst kind.

[Mr Rogers]

“He posted something, in text, that has a net reach of 513K users max”

I didn’t read it on Trump’s social site. I did read it - screenshots of it - in multiple British and US new sites.

Not what JOURNALISTS said about it, but screenshots of the actual quote. I know what Trump actually said as do many millions. And it makes Trump look crazy. It feeds into the fear many already had: That for Trump, it is all about HIM and power for him.

“nothing about Trump’s statement dissociated himself from his base”

I’M HIS BASE! I had three Trump flags in my yard in 2020. I’ve been to his rallies and to “Trump stores” - there is one in Show Low Arizona. I voted for him twice and did my best to get others to vote for him. I had a Trump 2024 bumper sticker on my truck driving around a liberal county. My wife rarely went to a store without wearing her Trump hat.

No longer. So what do you think the people who were never hard-core Trump fans are thinking now....

[Bruce Campbells Chin]

That is absurd. He posted something, in text, that has a net reach of 513K users max (that is, as has been, Truth Social's peak daily user record since April).

I'd say it's absurd to argue that the reach of Trump's post was limited to Truth Social and liberal journalists.

Exhibit A is how many times it was posted here, on Free Republic, where everybody and their brother had multiple chances to read it. It was also screen-captured from Truth Social, and then re-posted on Twitter, Facebook, etc., and instantly blew up everywhere.

That's the exact same thing that happened with the Dean Scream. After all, how many people were actually live-watching his post-election rally where he gave that speech and ended with that scream? I'll bet the live audience for Dean's speech was actually smaller than the Truth Social numbers. But as is inevitable, it was quickly repeated on television, on radio, etc. Essentially, the exact same thing that happened with Trump's post.

[Nextrush]

I get the sense of Pence being the ultimate Insurrectionist against the Trump Presidency before we even got to January 6th, 2021.

[Dead Corpse]

The Constitution is moot on fraudulent elections entirely. This is a “We the People” thing.

If you were as well read as you’d claim, you’d know this.

[cuz1961]

12/5/2022, 5:53:05 PM · 32 of 146
cuz1961 to Nextrush
A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude

allows
( has allowed )

for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution. Our great ‘Founder’ did not want, and would not condone, False & Fraudulent Elections!

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That’s what I think he meant.
Cuz the seditious ratbastages did violate massive election laws at county, state and federal levels.

They shat on every election law they could.

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Well I was right.

https://headlineusa.com/trump-attacked-by-uniparty-for-call-to-suspend-constitution/

Former President Donald Trump clarified remarks made over the weekend that were misconstrued by many in the media—including the Associated Press story below—to mean that he was calling on the US Constitution to be canceled over the media’s blatant and egregious malpractice in suppressing the Hunter Biden laptop scandal.

Trump’s ambiguously worded statement said that the fraud and deception “allows for the termination of all rules,” which many Democrats and RINO Republicans interpreted to mean Trump was justifying rather than condemning the termination of all rules.

In his follow-up comment, Trump clarified that he was not endorsing further abuses but was calling on responsible leaders to reinstate the rules after their defacto termination by a cabal of leftist operatives who openly flouted the normal election processes and legal requirements in order to oust him from office.

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/109462304115605769

[Bruce Campbells Chin]

This is a “We the People” thing.

Which "People", exactly? Because leftists and Democrats, even Antifa, use the same "We the People" phrase because they see themselves as "The People". And they use that phrase to justify all sorts of crap that isn't authorized by law because they are "The People".

The funny think is that "We The People" is the very first phrase in the Preamble to the Constitution. The Framers knew that ""The People" wouldn't always agree on substantive policies, but we could at least agree on the legal framework to resolve those disagreements.

The Constitution is "We the People". Anything else is just one faction of "The People" acting outside the law.

[LastDayz]

Of course you were right as were many others but the reading comprehension deficient are either unable or unwilling to see this.

[Dead Corpse]

Anything else is just one faction of "The People" acting outside the law.

You mean like stealing an election and passing laws far outside your Art 1 Sec 8 mandate?

I'm glad we agree. They all need to go and with the Soap, Jury, and Ballot boxes no longer functional... It leaves only the Cartridge Box.

See you at Muster.

[PerConPat]

You make excellent points in your post. The questions you describe, that might have been asked on Dec 3, are right on target.

[enumerated]

Liar. He did not say that.

[enumerated]

Since you are an intelligent poster, I choose your post as a proxy to frame my rebuttal of all the “Trump shouldn’t have said what he said” posters on this thread.

First, there seems to be problem with conflating and compounding criticisms - it’s hard to know which of Trump’s alleged mistakes is being loosely referenced or argued against.

For starters, let’s separate these four alleged mistakes:

1) He expresses himself in a manner that pushes buttons (True or False?).
2) He said the Constitution should be terminated. (True or False?)
3) He takes bad advice or fails to get or heed good advice (True or False?).
4) He had to know what he said would blow up in his face (True or False?).

Suffice it to say these would each be rebutted by a completely different set of arguments and examples.

In other words, this whole thread is impossible to untangle, so everyone is “wrong” or “right”, depending… :-)

For what it’s worth my opinion is that President Trump was obviously talking not about the Constitution as a whole, but rather about the narrow set of rules within the Constitution that pertains to the election, certification or removal of a President.

Obviously, the rules and procedures and limits in the Constitution assume we are taking about a duly elected President. If the sitting President was not duly elected - and was installed by fraud - then the rules and procedures in the Constitution do not apply.

I think that is all he is saying - and he’s right: all contracts are voided by fraud, because the terms of the contract were violated by that fraud.

He was right to say that - could he have said it better? Sure.

But even there I’m not sure he made a mistake - sometimes lack of clarity stimulates clarity. Like when a cheated President says “They cheated”.

Nixon resigned with dignity - Trump didn’t. I’m pretty sure Trump is my favorite of the two.

[zeebee]

Perhaps you misunderstood me.
I took it as , if you allow this massive fraud, you would be ignoring the constitution.

[enumerated]

Sorry I guess I did misunderstand.

I was getting pissed off at the whole thread and wrongly took it out on you - sorry.

What pisses me off is almost everybody accepts the fake news lie that President said anything about scrapping the whole Constitution - he didn’t.

If you read what he actually said, he was talking about specific rules in the Constitution regarding certifying an election or how you can remove a President. Those rules don’t apply in the case of a fraudulent election.

He was just saying those rules should be scrapped in this case - and the Left spins it into this lie that Trump wants to terminate the Constitution.

Then a hundred FReepers that should know better just accept the fake news lie…

But I shouldn’t get so pissed off and take it out on one poster -

[af_vet_1981]

Trump already won in a landslide in 2020.

No; unfortunately for the country he really did lose. I expect he would lose again.