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How Russian ally Kazakhstan is taking a stand against the Ukraine war{hawkish Russians have called for the "de-Nazification" of Kazakhstan}
Business insider ^ | 27 November 2022 | Alla Shoib

Posted on 11/29/2022 10:06:47 AM PST by Cronos

Russian ally Kazakhstan has been subtle but firm in its opposition to the Ukraine war. Some hawkish Russians have called for the "de-Nazification" of Kazakhstan, stoking fears it could be next. Kazakhstan is balancing its friendly relations with Russia with building stronger ties with the EU.

When Russia invaded Ukraine in February, its longtime ally Kazakhstan did not rush to its support.

The former Soviet republic in central Asia, which shares a 4,750-mile long land border with Russia, maintains close relations with its neighbor. But despite being one of its closest allies, Kazakhstan has made subtle but firm moves to show it does not support Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

Kazakhstan's official position on the war is to call for a ceasefire and a diplomatic solution, Magzhan Ilyassov, Kazakhstan's new ambassador to the UK, said in a press briefing attended by Insider.

Following the invasion of Ukraine, fears have also been stoked that Russia could turn its sights to Kazakhstan next.

...Although it has not outright criticized Russia for invading Ukraine, Kazakhstan has made its position clear.

It denied a request to send troops to fight with Russia near the beginning of the war and has sent planeloads of humanitarian aid to Ukraine.

Kazakhstan also declined to recognize the Russia-created breakaway republics Luhansk and Donetsk in southern Ukraine, which the country's president Kassym-Jomart Tokayev made a point of stating in front of Russian President Vladimir Putin while speaking at an economic forum in St Petersburg in June.

..Earlier this week, a guest on the show of Vladimir Solovyov, a well-known Russian TV presenter and propagandist, said that "the next problem is Kazakhstan" because "the same Nazi processes can start there as in Ukraine."

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A social media post by former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev also questioned Kazakhstan's sovereignty and called it an "artificial state"
1 posted on 11/29/2022 10:06:47 AM PST by Cronos
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To: Cronos

Exactly. Comrade Putin never intended to finish with Ukraine. It was just the start.


2 posted on 11/29/2022 10:17:43 AM PST by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Cronos

Where is it?


3 posted on 11/29/2022 10:18:14 AM PST by MarMema (No bugs for consumption)
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To: Cronos

Kazakhstan has been drifting away from Russia into China’s orbit, separating Russia from all of the Central Asian ‘stans.


4 posted on 11/29/2022 10:21:54 AM PST by ETCM (“There is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.” — Ronald Reagan)
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To: Cronos
Talk about an artificial state...
5 posted on 11/29/2022 10:23:42 AM PST by cranked
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To: Cronos

This?

https://www.newsweek.com/medvedev-russia-ukraine-vkontakte-georgia-kazhakstan-1730076


6 posted on 11/29/2022 10:24:06 AM PST by MarMema (No bugs for consumption)
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To: Cronos
The figure of 4,750 miles seems too high.

About 19% of the population of Kazakhstan is Russian. Will they lend themselves to the role of a fifth column?

7 posted on 11/29/2022 10:26:18 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: cranked

“annexed to” ??

you mean “voluntarily given”


8 posted on 11/29/2022 10:36:38 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: canuck_conservative

Artificial state confirmed.


9 posted on 11/29/2022 10:38:59 AM PST by cranked
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To: MarMema

It borders the future countries of altai, Tuva and Buryatia


10 posted on 11/29/2022 10:40:28 AM PST by Cronos (.)
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To: Cronos

Kazakhstan has a lot of oil (and uranium) and a small population. And half of them are Russian.


11 posted on 11/29/2022 10:40:35 AM PST by marron
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To: cranked

“Talk about an artificial states...”

By your logic, everything in this map that is not dark green is the “artificial state” of Russia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expansion_of_Russia_(1500%E2%80%931800)#/media/File:Territorial_Expansion_of_Russia.svg


12 posted on 11/29/2022 10:43:45 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Cronos

CIA at it again. We tried to launch a color revolution there about a year ago. More of the same. One day the Russians are going to decide the problems won’t go away until they vaporize DC.

And the spooky thing... If they ever get that rather rational idea in their head, it will be a cold calculation without warning. They would hope to decapitate their enemy.


13 posted on 11/29/2022 10:44:10 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: cranked
Talk about an artificial state


14 posted on 11/29/2022 10:45:01 AM PST by Cronos (.)
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To: ought-six

Ukraine: Artificial State.
Grab your tissues propaganda peddlers.
Russia - A Thousand Years of History.


15 posted on 11/29/2022 10:45:11 AM PST by cranked
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To: Verginius Rufus

“About 19% of the population of Kazakhstan is Russian. Will they lend themselves to the role of a fifth column?”

Ethnicity is one thing; allegiance is another.

The 19% you cite may be ethnic Russian, but are they Kazakh citizens? If so, to whom do they hold allegiance?

In the US there are a lot of ethnic Italians, and ethnic Germans; but they had no trouble fighting against both in WWII...as AMERICANS.


16 posted on 11/29/2022 10:46:35 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

https://www.rferl.org/a/kazakhstan-russia-toqaev-putin-partners/32152374.html


17 posted on 11/29/2022 10:51:58 AM PST by MarMema (No bugs for consumption)
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To: marron; Verginius Rufus

“Kazakhstan has a lot of oil (and uranium) and a small population. And half of them are Russian.”

Wait a minute. Verginius Rufus said the number of Russians in Kazakhstan was 195. Now, you have increased that to 50%.

In 2009 ethnic Russians made up just under 24% of the Kazakh population; it decreased from there. Until, apparently, the massive influx of Russians within the last few months as they sought to get away from Putin and his misadventures.


18 posted on 11/29/2022 10:53:41 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: cranked

So, you must agree with my argument that, according to YOUR criteria, everything in the map I linked to is “artificial Russia.”


19 posted on 11/29/2022 10:55:56 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: MarMema

There are partners, and then there are “partners.” I guess we’ll see which one Kazakhstan turns out to be.


20 posted on 11/29/2022 10:57:33 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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