Posted on 11/29/2022 5:27:39 AM PST by cotton1706
“This is where warped political delusions flare up in a big way.
If McCarthy isn’t the House Speaker, then who is? The Republican who challenged him and got all of 30 votes among his fellow Republicans?”
If McCarthy stepped aside or loses the first and second vote on the 3rd, he’ll be forced to step aside. If he becomes Speaker with Democrat votes or by convincing Democrats to vote presents to lower the vote threshold, then he won’t be Speaker for long (not that he cares. He WANTS the power).
If McCarthy steps aside, Republicans would be forced to coalesce around somebody else. When Gingrich resigned and then Livingston stepped aside and resigned, all of a sudden the House coalesced around Dennis Hastert. That’s generally how it works. The House could coalesce around Scalise, for example.
But we need to stop just going along. And at least five Republicans aren’t just going along.
Democracy is a fraud in America. We don’t get a choice. I have gotten to the point of saying “screw it”.
Their motto: “we pick your choices, now vote for it”
No longer interested. We are already miserable with this joke of DC leadership. None of these clowns are going to make anything better except for themselves.They are all so corrupt and crooked and none of them gives a shat because they all sold out..
They can GTH.
And the Gingrich-Livingston-Hastert example you cite is a terrible one. You’ve explained how this country ended up with a child molester as House Speaker.
Spicer is just another Republican elite who lately has been defending the establishment on his nightly shows.
To have a democrat as Speaker, it would require Republicans to vote for him. Maybe we should be worried.
I'm at the point where I believe this mess is no longer salvageable. Buckle up and let them collapse this corrupt, degenerate system. If McCarthy & McConnell are their ideas of Leaders, there is nothing we can do but watch.
Agree. This isn’t the right fight. 7% Mitch just got put back as Minority leader by a very wide margin. Primary everyone who supports the leadership. This means you may lose an election or Two. It might mean no red wave but you need to get rid of all of the lifers. Trump has the right approach here. Primary these pukes
He received a majority of votes. Andy Biggs got 40? How can Andy possibly get 218? It’s gonna be Kevin McCarthy all this noise it’s just crap.
They need to put their demands in writing. I agree with what they are asking for, the distribution of power back to the members, legislation should be individual issues, legislation should go through committees. Just spell it out, if McCarthy won’t agree, don’t vote for him but put it in writing.
The Dems have been picking everything else with MCarthy as minority leader. What would be new?
I’m old enough to remember the contest for the speakership in 2011. Out of Roy Blunt, John Shadegg and John Boehner the Rs selected the least effective Speaker (Boehner), particulary in the age of 0bamacare (should have been Shadegg).
There aren’t called the stupid party for nothing.
After f*cking up the midterm, you’d think this guy would just step aside. It’s proof that he actually met the objective of ensuring no landslide.
“The GOP is not going to “coalesce” around a Freedom Caucus member, so what makes you think the second or third choice would be any better than McCarthy?
And the Gingrich-Livingston-Hastert example you cite is a terrible one. You’ve explained how this country ended up with a child molester as House Speaker.”
I agree on both points. But we can’t just keep going along. Personally, I’d like to see who rises up. And I’d like to see McCarthy’s defeat, since he’s been a terrible leader and will be a terrible Speaker like Ryan and Boehner were. They’ve clearly groomed Cantor, Ryan and McCarthy to be Speaker. I’d be happy with Scalise (though he’s nothing to write home about).
Concessions???like I'll do this when elected then that when secure in the position. What a snake. All republicans are snakes.
Yes, i knew that. Trump’s name has been bandied about for the last couple of years for this role.
Realistically, who are the alternatives in the House to McCarthy?
D.C. has become a game show not sure if it’s let’s make a deal or truth or consequences.
This feckless GOPe scrunt whining about games being played when for the last 50-60 years that's all the GOPe is known for. F the GOPe and F the Mc's!
The Freedpm Caucus may want someone besides McCarthy but they have to recognize that who THEY want instead may get even more opposition in the GOP than their opposition to McCarthy. If they were to get McCarthy to step aside and they put up their candidate and that candidate looses to the Dim, then what will they do???
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