Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Colorado Springs shooter’s non-binary claim won’t stop hate crime charges, legal experts say
Yahoo! News ^ | November 24, 2022 | By Namita Singh

Posted on 11/24/2022 6:51:56 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

The Colorado Springs shooting suspect’s gender identity will not stop the authorities from bringing in hate crime charges against them, legal experts claim.

… The suspect’s gender identity is “not relevant," Neama Rahmani, president of West Coast Trial Lawyers and a former federal prosecutor, told Insider. "Obviously the defense will want to get it in, but it’s not a defense."

"It’s certainly something that the defense would try to use, but it’s not in and of itself a bar from hate crime charges depending on what the other evidence is," Brian Levin, professor of criminal justice at California State University, San Bernardino, was quoted as saying by the Insider.

"The notion that because someone might belong to a group does not mean that some ... dispute revolving around that group membership or issue would negate hate crime charges," he added.

Meanwhile, the court has ordered that the suspect be held in custody without bail.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aldrich; clubq; culturewar; homosexualagenda; perverts
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-74 next last
To: Levy78
Now all blacks who kill blacks can be charged with a hate crime. Any FR lawyers want to chime in on precedence being set here?

Only if the perps are registered Republicans. ;-)

21 posted on 11/24/2022 7:14:42 AM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: SuzyQue

You’d think if you killed people it’s driven by a degree of hate in your mind and heart.


22 posted on 11/24/2022 7:14:55 AM PST by ealgeone
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Hate crimes” are bullshit. Murder is murder, whatever the reason.


23 posted on 11/24/2022 7:15:03 AM PST by rod5591
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Oldeconomybuyer

Hate crimes are what Orwell called thought crimes.


24 posted on 11/24/2022 7:17:00 AM PST by cuban leaf (My prediction: Harris is Spiro Agnew. We'll soon see who becomes Gerald Ford, and our next prez.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: cgbg; EEGator

There was a movie called ‘Love Crimes’. Sean Young is naked in it.


25 posted on 11/24/2022 7:17:28 AM PST by real saxophonist (Hoplophobia will never be in the DSM, because the DSM is written by hoplophobes.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Regulator
Perhaps the “legal experts” could explain how Darrel Brooks, now convicted killer of six White people, escaped “hate crime” charges for something that was obviously motivated by hate.

Because he was oppressed by the white man.

26 posted on 11/24/2022 7:18:13 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: cgbg

Ask OJ. He said in an interview, if he did kill Nicole, he did it out of love. No word on how much he loved Ron Goldman.


27 posted on 11/24/2022 7:19:13 AM PST by rey
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: real saxophonist

A sexy Replicant...


28 posted on 11/24/2022 7:20:28 AM PST by EEGator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: Oldeconomybuyer

He killed 5 people why would he care about an additional 10 years on a life sentence with no chance of parole?


29 posted on 11/24/2022 7:21:53 AM PST by Husker24 (Pp)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Oldeconomybuyer

A FICTIONAL conversation with his Defense Lawyer:

His lawyer may have asked him: “Bottom line, you’re going to be in prison from this point on. So, do you want Death Penalty or Life w/o parole? If Life w/o parole, you need to say you’re Non Binary. You just discovered it last night in the Hospital Recovery Room. It doesn’t matter that you hate them. That’s even better; “The blind rage of Self Hatred”.

You ‘identify as Non-Binary’. Say it! Use that phrase, word for word. They will have to accept your definition. Now, the LBGT’s will look at your bruises and empathize with you, your upbringing and such. Your Dad, the Porn Star.
These all amount to Extenuating Circumstances”.


30 posted on 11/24/2022 7:22:23 AM PST by lee martell
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Hate” is a tool used to create division in the community. It is designed to stir up the crowd when it is filed. Stir up the emotion in the jury is the motive. If a person is charged with a “hate crime” by design it will take the focus off of the typical charge and onto the man! He’s a HATER and therefore he is GUILTY, GUILTY and GUILTY! He must pay because he is not “normal”! He is a HATER! All one has to do is look at the racial makeup of the hate charges that have been filed in the past to see what it is all about.


31 posted on 11/24/2022 7:24:57 AM PST by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals crazy!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: EEGator

If Jesus was black, clearly the devil is too.

Meh we use to be… the great wars of the 20th century thinned our warrior genes.


32 posted on 11/24/2022 7:25:59 AM PST by Levy78 (Reject modernity, embrace tradition. )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Oldeconomybuyer

“hate crime charges”.. What a joke...


33 posted on 11/24/2022 7:27:34 AM PST by unread ("It's not enough that we do our best; sometimes we have to do what's required." W. Churchill.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Oldeconomybuyer

Wonder if this guy knew Paul Pelosi?


34 posted on 11/24/2022 7:27:36 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Vote Democrat and stay on the plantation!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Oldeconomybuyer

Are we still in the RATS’ lawless “defund and fire the police mode”?


35 posted on 11/24/2022 7:29:01 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (You can vote your way into socialism but you have to shoot your way out. Remember that Snowflakes!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Levy78

Yep. Millions of Alpha males down the tubes.

I don’t believe in fate or destiny, so we’ll see what the future holds.

Nowadays, technology is the greatest weapon.
It can be used against us, but also against “them”.


36 posted on 11/24/2022 7:30:27 AM PST by EEGator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: Oldeconomybuyer

There is no indication that he prior to the shooting that he claimed to be nonbinary.

The nonbinary claim is simply a defense tactic to muddle the case.


37 posted on 11/24/2022 7:33:03 AM PST by Round Earther
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Oldeconomybuyer

The word identity no longer means what it used to mean. Identity meant what you are, not what you imagine you are. Today it means whatever your unstable mind tells you to think you are at the moment.

Just try this, at a traffic stop.
Officer says: “License and registration. What is your name?”
Subject: “I identify as Henry Wadsworth Longfellow”
Officer: “That’s not the name on your license. Come with me please.”

There is no reason to accept someone’s delusionary self-identification.


38 posted on 11/24/2022 7:33:05 AM PST by I want the USA back (Our news media isn't worth camel spit. Neither is the democrat party. )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Oldeconomybuyer

just get a firing squad together....these lengthly expensive trials are a waste of everyone’s time. it is NOT how the system is supposed to work...fair and speedy...


39 posted on 11/24/2022 7:34:03 AM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Regulator

Just because he rapped about killing White People doesn’t mean it was a hate crime.........


40 posted on 11/24/2022 7:35:26 AM PST by realcleanguy (quickly things are falling apart, now that the )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-74 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson