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Ukraine Supporters & Denial of History
Armstrong Economics ^ | 22 Nov 22 | Martin Armstrong

Posted on 11/23/2022 12:33:48 PM PST by delta7

I apologize, the proposal began in 1991 for Russia to join NATO. But the final agreement with respect to Ukraine’s nukes was not in Belgrade but in Budapest. History has been rewritten to support the war against Russia for climate change. I have never seen any account of history that reports NATO invited Russia to join in 1991. Some people are so pro-Ukrainian that it is insane.

They are really cheering for World War III and no doubt believed in COVID, Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq, and Hillary’s RussiaGate. They refuse to open their eyes to see that they have been played for fools as always to justify war.

So cheer all you want. This war will NOT be confined to just Ukraine you can watch it on TV as if it is some video game. Ukraine was the 3rd largest nuclear power. That was a fact. The US paid them to surrender their nukes to Russia and they in turn provided nuclear power rods for electricity. James Baker warned about loose nukes and Ukraine was one of the three republics that ended up with nukes. The difference was, Ukraine wanted to use them on Moscow. All my sources back then were deeply concerned that Ukraine just could not ever be trusted. It was Ukraine that kept the cold war going. Zelensky has supported the Ukrainian Neo-Nazis who have even bragged that they feed the bones of Russian-speaking children to their pet wolves. I have fact-checked that and it is a true statement made to the press.

My dealing with Ukrainian governments has always been: Just show me the money. Ukraine is a corrupt black hole. History will show who is on the right and wrong side if any side survives.

Good luck with your hatred. Remember, there is a funny thing about what we call karma. What you wish on someone else may be what becomes your own undoing. So don’t worry. Your hatred of Russia will end that nation, but it will be a Phryic War and nobody will survive. So cheer the loss of your future. You will get what you deserve in spades.

The Polish Association of Memory of Victims of Crimes of Ukrainian Nationalists documented 135 methods of torture and murder practiced by Ukrainian Nazis. Poland officially called the Ukrainian actions genocide. The Ukrainians have been protected by the CIA for decades ONLY because they hated Russians. They continue to protect the Ukrainian Nazis only because they are waging war against Russia. The Ukrainians were unprecedented in their war crimes during WWII and the sheer outright cruelty one would expect only exists in some B-Rated horror movies. This included: Running children through with stakes Cutting a person’s throat and pulling their tongue out through the hole Sawing a person’s torso in half with a carpenter’s saw Cutting open the belly of a woman in an advanced stage of pregnancy, removing the fetus, and replacing it with a live cat, before sewing up her abdomen. Cutting open a pregnant women’s abdomen and pouring in broken glass Nailing a small child to a door. Ignore all the history you want to keep fanning the flames of war. When you lose everything, remember – you asked for this result.


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The truth is leaking out, war cheerleaders, carry on.
1 posted on 11/23/2022 12:33:48 PM PST by delta7
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To: delta7

Who writes this vile crap?

Ukraine wanted to use its nukes against Russia? Facinating because it gave the nukes up.

“Ukraine can never be trusted”? Wow you mean like Jews or blacks etc? Sounds racist to me.

Ukrainians nail kids to walls and kill cats? Is that their national policy?

Crazy stuff. Ukrajnians are a good Christian people and they seem to be very good at killing Russian invaders against incredible odds.

Take this vile crazy propaganda and shove it.


2 posted on 11/23/2022 12:40:14 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Williams

remember, Martin Armstrong is a convicted fraudster with no cred


3 posted on 11/23/2022 12:41:46 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: delta7

“The truth is leaking out, war cheerleaders, carry on.”
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There is a definite need to fund raise to give the WARMONGERING CHEERLEADING SPAMMERS BLUE AND YELLOW POM POMS.


4 posted on 11/23/2022 12:41:51 PM PST by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX.)
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To: Williams

5 posted on 11/23/2022 12:43:14 PM PST by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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To: delta7

The war is going on a year. Russia is losing at the moment.
Just wondering, when is this WWIII happening?
Cause Russia obviously would be wiped out in a nuclear war. Last thing Russia wants is a nuclear war.
If this war goes on another year will we still have to be told this WWIII thing is happening every week?
Gets a bit hysterical at some point.


6 posted on 11/23/2022 12:43:44 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: canuck_conservative

Never heard of Martin Armstrong sounds like I’m not missing much.


7 posted on 11/23/2022 12:44:50 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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—> Ukrajnians are a good Christian people

Also some of the most dishonest and corrupt people you will meet.


8 posted on 11/23/2022 12:45:21 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: delta7

“The truth is leaking out, war cheerleaders, carry on.”

The problem for the war cheerleaders is Russia is ready for this. There are hundreds of thousands of angry troops massing somewhere, preparing to do something.


9 posted on 11/23/2022 12:46:10 PM PST by Chunga85 (An arrogant govt combined with an ignorant population is a recipe for disaster.)
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To: Williams

The war is going on a year. Russia is losing at the moment.
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Huh? Ukraine is increasingly being de energized and de industrialized, sitting in the dark, unemployment and inflation historic highs, currency destroyed, billions in unpayable debt, all infrastructure crippled ( to say the least), the Donbass ( and more) taken, and you keep repeating the corrupted western media narrative?

Please, do yourself a favor, get off the western media whiskey bottle, you are headed for a huge hangover.


10 posted on 11/23/2022 12:50:02 PM PST by delta7
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Amazing how Ukraine is the bad guy but Russia did the invading.

The sooner Mordor on the Moskva is defeated the better.

11 posted on 11/23/2022 12:51:22 PM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: delta7
"They refuse to open their eyes to see that they have been played for fools as always to justify war."

Bingo. The Ukrainians have a deep evil streak. Anyone who has been on this earth awhile knows that most of the money sent to the Ukraine is going to Zelensky's and his buddies' bank acounts. I suspect part of this is that Biden and the Deep State know that if Zelensky and his thugs lose, the books will be opened. Hunter Biden, Soros, Schwab, et al will be exposed for what they are.

Next to the German Nazis, the Ukrainian Nazis were just as brutal. The 4th Waffen Grenadier Galician Division of the SS was all Ukrainian. Their antisemitism was perhaps worse then the Germans. The unimaginable horror of the pit of Babi Yar was as much Ukrainian enabled as German enabled. Ukrainian death squads rounded up thousands of Jews and brought them to The Pit of Babi Yar; some 30,000 Jews met their end there.

12 posted on 11/23/2022 12:52:28 PM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: delta7

is that why stalin Holodomor’d them???


13 posted on 11/23/2022 12:53:29 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Williams

Never heard of Martin Armstrong sounds like I’m not missing much.
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You won’t, he is legendary in forecasting, many sovereign nations have called upon him to fix their messes., China, Britain, the US, the EU, etc….a legend in private government discussions.


14 posted on 11/23/2022 12:53:48 PM PST by delta7
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Having travelled Russia and the EU extensively, the well known fact goes like this: “ when shaking hands with a Ukrainian, be sure to check how many fingers he stole”, truer every day.


15 posted on 11/23/2022 12:55:34 PM PST by delta7
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To: delta7

Exactly.

My Ukrainian relatives told me stories of corruption that are terrible.


16 posted on 11/23/2022 12:59:53 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: delta7

I’d rather believe that Prigozhin delivered a bloodstained hammer with Wagner symbols on it (the kind used to execute RF prisoners) in a violin case after declaring the European Parliament dissolved by “our legislation”.

It’s way more plausible than this anti Ukrainian nonsense.


17 posted on 11/23/2022 1:02:28 PM PST by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe". https://www.thefabulous.co/s/2uHEJdj)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

The combination of those two statements describes most every nation on Earth. There are good Christian people; there are dishonest and corrupt people. The problem is, in both these countries, as in the USA, is that the dishonest and corrupt end up as politicians and in the seats of power.


18 posted on 11/23/2022 1:10:05 PM PST by Ingtar
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

The trouble with your argument is that there were 39 Waffen SS divisions in total, of which your Ukrainian citation was the 14th - not the 4th. Of the 39, only 18 were composed of Germans (including Austrians), and the remaining 21 of other nationalities, including Danes, Norwegians, Swedes, Latvians, Estonians, Walloons, Flemish, French, Hungarians, Romanians, Croats, Bosnians, Albanians, Belorussians, Ukrainians, and - guess what? - Russians. Much of Europe was implicated in the crimes of the Nazis. That is part of the shame and coverup that still surrounds the horror of WWII. That is history. As always history is instructive, if looked at clearly and without an agenda. It is also, as always, a mix of the good, the bad, the ugly.


19 posted on 11/23/2022 1:13:19 PM PST by Belteshazzar
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

So, by the SS logic, Albania, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Hungary, India, Italy, Latvia, Netherlands, Norway, Romania, Serbia, Spain, Russia itself, Sweden, Switzerland, and the United Kingdom are also still evil.


20 posted on 11/23/2022 1:13:19 PM PST by Ingtar
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