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Russia's 'General Armageddon' Under Pressure to Deliver on Battlefield After Retreat
US News ^ | 11/21/2022 | Reuters

Posted on 11/21/2022 8:24:15 AM PST by marcusmaximus

Russia's leading war hawks rallied behind the humiliating decision for Moscow's forces to retreat from the Ukrainian city of Kherson this month, but the commander who argued in favour of the move is now under growing pressure to prove it was worth it.

Sergei Surovikin, nicknamed "General Armageddon" by the Russian media for his reputed ruthlessness, on Nov. 9 recommended Moscow's forces quit Kherson and the west bank of the River Dnipro where they were dangerously exposed.

Surovikin, a 56-year-old veteran of wars in Chechnya and Syria who has been decorated by President Vladimir Putin, argued the withdrawal, completed two days later, would allow Moscow to save equipment and redeploy forces there - estimated by the United States at 30,000-strong - to offensives elsewhere.

Some of those troops have since been moved from southern to eastern Ukraine, where fierce fighting is raging, and the Hero of Russia recipient is under pressure on the cusp of winter to show his bet was the right one.

"We await your brilliant results and pray for you, I pray for you every day," Margarita Simonyan, the hawkish editor-in-chief of RT TV and one of the main public proponents of the war, told Surovikin in a TV broadcast last week.

Simonyan urged Surovikin, a hulking shaven-headed figure who has been shown on TV speaking in clipped Russian military language, to ignore "nonsense" from critics, a reference to influential military bloggers unhappy about his retreat.

One of those bloggers, Vladlen Tatarsky, who has more than half a million followers on the Telegram messaging service, had fumed over Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy's post-retreat visit to Kherson, questioning why Moscow had not killed him.

"What are we spilling our blood for? Why can Zelenskiy calmly come to Kherson?" Tatarsky asked in a video post.

(Excerpt) Read more at usnews.com ...


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To: cranked; Chauncey Gardiner
According to plan:

Ukraine Plans Evacuations in 2 Stricken Cities as Temperatures Plunge
The government is making plans to evacuate residents who want to leave from Kherson and Mykolaiv, where fighting has badly damaged the infrastructure.

The Walter Duranty Times, November 21, 2022

https://archive.ph/r57zF

"How about a little constant artillery shelling, Scarecrow?"

21 posted on 11/21/2022 8:59:05 AM PST by kiryandil (put yer vote in the box, chump. HARHARHARHAR)
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To: kiryandil

ZelenskyyIdiot says: “Looks like WINNING!”


22 posted on 11/21/2022 9:00:47 AM PST by cranked
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To: marcusmaximus

The war hawks should retreat back into their playpens. They’re doing nothing but killing children and making fools of themselves.


23 posted on 11/21/2022 9:04:10 AM PST by bgill
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To: kiryandil
Wha happen?


24 posted on 11/21/2022 9:04:46 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: bgill

25 posted on 11/21/2022 9:06:56 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: cranked

No, my disillusionment with Carlson started a long time ago when he began poking at President Trump and supporting an increasing number of RINO talking points.


26 posted on 11/21/2022 9:12:48 AM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: MeganC

Interesting observation.


27 posted on 11/21/2022 9:17:55 AM PST by Starboard
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To: marcusmaximus

Maximum trolling from marcusmaxitroll is wha happened...


28 posted on 11/21/2022 9:19:22 AM PST by kiryandil (put yer vote in the box, chump. HARHARHARHAR)
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To: MeganC

“No, my disillusionment with Carlson started a long time ago when he began poking at President Trump and supporting an increasing number of RINO talking points”

Ironic that those who support Ukraine are those that are RINOs and NEOCONS, huh? And not even counting the alleged ‘anti-war’ Left.....


29 posted on 11/21/2022 9:20:55 AM PST by cranked
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To: kiryandil

Putin lost 50% of his “conquered” territory because he sucks and his army sucks. That’s wha happen.


30 posted on 11/21/2022 9:26:12 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: cranked

Wake me up when Tucker Carlson invites President Trump on his show.


31 posted on 11/21/2022 9:26:47 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: cranked

“The list of House Republicans who have always voted against Ukraine relief are:

Jodey Arrington of Texas
Brian Babin of Texas
Jim Banks of Indiana
Andy Biggs of Arizona
Gus Bilirakis of Florida
Dan Bishop of North Carolina
Lauren Boebert of Colorado
Ken Buck of Colorado
Tim Burchett of Tennessee
Kat Cammack of Florida
Madison Cawthorn of North Carolina
Michael Cloud of Texas
Andrew Clyde of Georgia
James Comer of Kentucky
Warren Davidson of Ohio
Scott Des Jarlais of Tennessee
Byron Donalds of Florida
Jeff Duncan of South Carolina
Ron Estes of Kansas
Russ Fulcher of Idaho
Matt Gaetz of Florida
Bob Gibbs of Ohio
Louie Gohmert of Texas
Bob Good of Virginia
Paul Gosar of Arizona
Garret Graves of Louisiana
Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia
Diana Harshbarger of Tennessee
Vicky Hartzler of Missouri
Kevin Hern of Oklahoma
Yvette Herrell of New Mexico
Jody Hice of Georgia
Clay Higgins of Louisiana
Bill Huizenga of Michigan
Ronny Jackson of Texas
Mike Johnson of Louisiana
Jim Jordan of Ohio
Debbie Lesko of Arizona
Billy Long of Missouri
Tracey Mann of Kansas
Thomas Massie of Kentucky
Brian Mast of Florida
Mary Miller of Illinois
Barry Moore of Alabama
Troy Nehls of Texas
Ralph Norman of South Carolina
Scott Perry of Pennsylvania
John Rose of Tennessee
Matthew Rosendale of Montana
Chip Roy of Texas
Pete Sessions of Texas
Greg Steube of Florida
Tom Tiffany of Wisconsin
Jeff Van Drew of New Jersey
Beth Van Duyne of Texas
Bruce Westerman of Arkansas
Roger Williams of Texas

‘Full List of Republicans Who Have Always Voted Against Ukraine Aid’
https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-republicans-who-have-always-voted-against-ukraine-aid-1706463

I suppose they are paid Russian stooges, Putin lackeys, etc., huh?


32 posted on 11/21/2022 9:28:14 AM PST by cranked
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To: marcusmaximus

Wake me up when you acknowledge that you are nothing more than propaganda peddler and have been within FR since March of this year.


33 posted on 11/21/2022 9:29:37 AM PST by cranked
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To: cranked

Q. Why hasn’t Tucker Carlson had President Trump on his show in almost 2 years?

A. Because Rupert Murdoch won’t allow him.

#TuckerIsControlledOpposition


34 posted on 11/21/2022 9:35:42 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

#TuckerPawnedYouProUkrainianSupporters


35 posted on 11/21/2022 9:36:27 AM PST by cranked
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To: marcusmaximus

Ukraine - No Way To Peace Without Further War

“Another problem with talks is that there is no one to talk to. The Ukrainian comedian Zelensky is not in a position where he can give up and stay alive:

And one of the biggest impediments to any settlement, other than Russia eventually dictating terms, is the leader the collective West has put on a pedestal: Zelensky, with the additional baggage of his Banderite inner circle.”
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“Smith affirmatively quotes the former Russian president Medvedev who had explained the issue:

Vice Chairman of Russia’s Security Council, in a recent Telegram comment summarized in TASS, correctly depicted how Zelensky is boxed in:

Nevertheless, “Zelensky does not want any negotiations for quite obvious selfish reasons. Moreover, they [negotiations] are very dangerous for him,” Medvedev continued.

“After all, unless he acknowledges the realities of Ukraine’s break-up, it makes no sense to sit down at the [negotiating] table. Once he admits it, he will be bumped off by his own nationalists who are connected with the army top brass, and of whom he is scared out of his wits,” Medvedev said, describing the situation by the chess term ‘Zugzwang’ (in which each move of a player will worsen his/her position).”
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/11/ukraine-no-way-to-peace-without-further-war.html#more


36 posted on 11/21/2022 9:43:26 AM PST by cranked
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To: marcusmaximus

Yep. At this rate, Ukraine is going to seize Crimea by spring. That’ll end the war. Putin may be removed from power.


37 posted on 11/21/2022 9:47:31 AM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: cranked

Tucker Carlson:

Scott Ritter can be on my show.

President Trump can’t be on my show.


38 posted on 11/21/2022 9:48:38 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus
LOL!

mucus, your trolling is losing its zest.

39 posted on 11/21/2022 9:50:15 AM PST by kiryandil (put yer vote in the box, chump. HARHARHARHAR)
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To: cranked

No one with a brain cares what that pedophile thinks, nimrod.


40 posted on 11/21/2022 9:57:34 AM PST by Vaden (Real conservatives will not allow our wagon to be hitched to fascist Russia)
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