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To: ought-six
Ukraine posed no threat to Russia

Sparky, the concept of a proxy war with NATO related to expansion has been explained to you for 6 months, yet you remain ignorant. I'm going to chalk this up to some form of learning disorder perhaps exacerbated by vaxxines and boosters. Whatever it is, please seek help.

61 posted on 11/20/2022 2:35:39 PM PST by JonPreston
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To: JonPreston

But it was Russia that started the “proxy war”, in an act of transcendental stupidity. Ukraine was never going to try take Belgorod or Rostov. Ukraine had no strategic weapons and still doesn’t. If Russia had stayed on its side of the border all Ukraine would have done is join the EU, which was the actual casus belli in 2014, note well.


66 posted on 11/20/2022 2:45:07 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: JonPreston

“Sparky, the concept of a proxy war with NATO related to expansion has been explained to you for 6 months, yet you remain ignorant.”

If NATO is in fact at war with Russia via proxy (and a proxy war is, in fact, a war), then why hasn’t Russia attacked NATO? You know damn well Ukraine was not going to become a NATO member: It has failed to meet the criteria. Has it cooperated with NATO? Yes. As have other non-NATO countries. Hell, even RUSSIA has cooperated with NATO when it suited its (Russia’s) purposes. But cooperation alone provides NO security guarantees for Ukraine (and it is those security guarantees that are the sine qua non of the NATO charter).

So, tell me again about this terrible threat to Russia by what you and other anti-Ukraine posters have described as a bankrupt and impoverished and corrupt welfare state that has no air force to speak of, no navy to speak of, no strategic weaponry, and only occasional electricity?


70 posted on 11/20/2022 2:52:45 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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