“Sparky, the concept of a proxy war with NATO related to expansion has been explained to you for 6 months, yet you remain ignorant.”
If NATO is in fact at war with Russia via proxy (and a proxy war is, in fact, a war), then why hasn’t Russia attacked NATO? You know damn well Ukraine was not going to become a NATO member: It has failed to meet the criteria. Has it cooperated with NATO? Yes. As have other non-NATO countries. Hell, even RUSSIA has cooperated with NATO when it suited its (Russia’s) purposes. But cooperation alone provides NO security guarantees for Ukraine (and it is those security guarantees that are the sine qua non of the NATO charter).
So, tell me again about this terrible threat to Russia by what you and other anti-Ukraine posters have described as a bankrupt and impoverished and corrupt welfare state that has no air force to speak of, no navy to speak of, no strategic weaponry, and only occasional electricity?
Unwittingly, you just described Russia's proxy war with NATO. Keep trying Sparky, the light might come on.