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Blame the Deep State for Carnage in Ukraine
The American Conservative ^ | Nov 16 2022 | George D. O’Neill Jr.

Posted on 11/17/2022 5:41:52 AM PST by euram

From the onset of the Ukraine war, the corporate media, politicians, and all the controlled NGOs throughout America and Western Europe were lockstep in their claim that the Russian military action in eastern Ukraine was unprovoked and unjustified—an act of aggression that could not be allowed to stand.

There was one problem with this propaganda blitz: it was totally untrue. The Deep State—the government elites, intelligence community, and the military establishment—has spent decades threatening and provoking Russia by pushing NATO up against their border.

(Excerpt) Read more at theamericanconservative.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 0iqputintroll; 0iqrussiantroll; agitprop; apologist; biden; blameputin; bogusnonsense; neocons; russianwarmongers; ukraine; vlad; warmongers; whyishenotbanned; whyishestillhere; zelenskyqs
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1 posted on 11/17/2022 5:41:52 AM PST by euram
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To: euram

Incoming and take cover Mr. George D. O’Neill Jr.

The NAFO idiots will quickly label you a paid Russian informant, a Russian bot, a Russian shill, a Putinist...well, you get the picture.


2 posted on 11/17/2022 5:46:39 AM PST by cranked
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To: euram
There is a significant problem with this analysis:

Russia has spent decades pushing eastern Euorpean countries into NATO, for fear of Russian aggression.

3 posted on 11/17/2022 5:51:37 AM PST by marktwain
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and what’s the excuse for Russia attacking Georgia (2008)?

nobody “forced” Russia to invade Ukraine

they made that decision all by themselves

there’s always some doofus making excuses for the monsters ... same thing happened with Hitler too


4 posted on 11/17/2022 5:51:43 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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Corp MSM, NGOs, & FR neocons... were lockstep in their claim


5 posted on 11/17/2022 5:58:55 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: canuck_conservative

“...same thing happened with Hitler too”

Ironic that you bring up Hitler, ain’t it.
Done a little research on Freeland yet?

By the way, has Justin Castro recovered from the utter schooling and scolding he received from Xi?


6 posted on 11/17/2022 5:58:57 AM PST by cranked
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To: euram

If this claim that Russia only attacked Ukraine because of the fear of NATO aggression, then they would settle for a guarantee of Ukrainian neutrality and leave Ukrainian territory. Rather, it is merely a transparent excuse to justify the ceasing of that territory. The author also ignores Russia’s own provocations forcing Ukraine to seek protection under the NATO umbrella.


7 posted on 11/17/2022 6:14:03 AM PST by Petrosius
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Blame the Deep State for Carnage in Ukraine


8 posted on 11/17/2022 6:14:05 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: euram

I blame Putin.


9 posted on 11/17/2022 6:15:33 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: euram

“Blame the Deep State for Carnage in Ukraine”

Blame the Deep State for Carnage in the US electoral system

There, fixed it


10 posted on 11/17/2022 6:15:53 AM PST by antidemoncrat
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To: euram
The only "threat" was against Russia's dreams of expansion and hegemony outside of its own borders. No way in a million years NATO was ever going to invade Russia, and everyone knew that. Including Putin.

Having your dreams of expansion into other countries "threatened" is not a justification for going to war. "You're trying to make it so we can't invade other countries, so we have to go to war." Utter crap.

11 posted on 11/17/2022 6:22:11 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: cranked

Way too much truth here. Should the FR Biden Regime zealots attempt to read this their media addled brains would surely go on vapor lock if not just explode.


12 posted on 11/17/2022 6:22:48 AM PST by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge )
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To: euram

Preaching to the choir. The choir refers to anyone actually paying attention and not on the Globohomos payroll.


13 posted on 11/17/2022 6:26:20 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: euram
Blame the Deep State for Carnage in Ukraine


14 posted on 11/17/2022 6:33:40 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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@RepThomasMassie

Biden’s latest Ukraine spending request will put the US Congress on a trajectory to spend TWICE as much money on Ukraine as we spend on roads and bridges in a year. No one can tell you where it’s all gone or going.

Demand a halt. Demand an audit. Demand an Inspector General.

Contact Congress

U.S. House of Representatives:
* Telephone: 202-225-3121
* Website: http://www.house.gov/

U.S. Senate:
* Telephone: 202-224-3121


15 posted on 11/17/2022 6:38:37 AM PST by Liz
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To: euram
IMHO the Russia-Ukraine conflict is Vietnam 2.0 without conscription, and with our mass media's support.

Like North Vietnam, Russia will use any excuse to justify it's annexation of Ukraine, but it is much more critical for their long term viability as a country.

And like South Vietnam, our government is sending billions to prop up a Ukrainian regime that they know to be corrupt.

But the biggest difference is that the Zelenskyy regime is an important cog in the WEF Globalist apparatus.

So yeah, Putin is a despot, but unlike Zelenskyy he would not risk starting WWIII.

16 posted on 11/17/2022 7:01:05 AM PST by SecondAmendment (This just proves my latest theory ... LEFTISTS RUIN EVERYTHING !!!)
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To: cranked
He seems nice.


17 posted on 11/17/2022 7:46:47 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Liz

Video of proud UkroNazi shown above.

https://twitter.com/DPRKJones/status/1593176579781578754


18 posted on 11/17/2022 7:48:50 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: euram

Only Russia is too blame for the carnage in Ukraine. They started this war and they own 100% of the responsibility for it.


19 posted on 11/17/2022 7:52:02 AM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: euram
Another key take from the article that the neocons here don't want to acknowledge:

In 2014 the United States assisted, if not outright directed, a coup d'état against an elected government in Ukraine because that government wanted friendly relations with Russia—a larger neighbor with a shared history stretching back centuries. The Deep State could not tolerate that friendship.

20 posted on 11/17/2022 8:58:58 AM PST by Kazan
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