Posted on 11/16/2022 5:27:12 PM PST by SoConPubbie
What has now been identified as a Russian-made, but Ukrainian-launched S-300 air defense missile, landed in the village of Przewodow in eastern Poland on Tuesday, 15 miles from the Ukrainian border. The errant missile landed on a grain silo and the explosion killed 2 people.
Immediately following the incident, Polish Prime Minister, Mateusz Morawiecki called an urgent meeting with the government committee for national security and defense affairs while Poland’s foreign ministry issued a statement saying that a “Russia-made” missile had landed on the border with Ukraine and summoned the Russian ambassador for a meeting.
The Russian Defense Ministry issued a statement saying that the country had not engaged in “strikes against targets near the Ukrainian-Polish border” as Polish sources had claimed. The Russian statement went on to accuse Poland of attempting to escalate the situation. While the Pentagon said that it could not corroborate the reports at the time, a senior U.S. intelligence official told reporters that Russian missiles crossed into Poland, killing two people and a Pentagon spokesperson said that the U.S. was ready to “defend every inch of NATO territory.”
Meanwhile, U.S. President, Joe Biden, offered his condolences to Polish President, Andrzej Duda.
While NATO and Poland decided to invoke Article 4, which calls for “consultations” if a NATO member is threatened, instead of invoking the Article 5 collective defense treaty, Ukraine immediately took to blaming Russia for the errant missile in Poland calling the incident an “attack on collective security” and a “very significant escalation.” NATO and the U.S. began an investigation into who launched the missile.
As social media accounts began to post unconfirmed photos of the missile that landed in Poland, doubts quickly began to arise that the projectile was in fact not a Russian missile at all, but rather a Ukrainian S-300 air defense missile which looks unmistakably different than the Russian missiles used in recent strikes against Ukraine.
Unconfirmed photos of the missile that landed in PolandWith the facts coming into the public light, Ukraine began to accuse Russia of promoting a conspiracy theory that a Ukrainian missile fell on Poland territory which a Ukrainian official said, “is not true” and that “No one should buy Russian propaganda or amplify its messages.”
Hours after top U.S. officials accused Russia of firing missiles into Poland, Joe Biden walked back previous statements made by officials and told reporters at the G-20 summit in Bali that it was “unlikely” that the missile that struck Poland was launched from Russia. Biden went on to say, “There is preliminary information that contests that. I don’t want to say that until we completely investigate, but… it is unlikely in the lines of the trajectory that it was fired from Russia.”
While it is becoming clear that all the countries involved, and NATO, were aware from the beginning that the missile that landed in Poland was not launched by the Russians, it makes one wonder why the U.S., Poland, and NATO would initially claim that it was. Accusing Russia of engaging in missile attacks on a NATO member state is clearly an act that Russia could easily interpret as an escalation and could lead to a new conflict.
Given that people on social media were able to tell the distinction between the Ukrainian S-300 air defense missile that landed in Poland and the Kaibre cruise missiles Russia has used in its attacks on Ukraine, surely NATO and its allies knew from the beginning that Russia was not involved. What then could have been the reason to paint an errant air defense missile from Ukraine as a Russian cruise missile deliberately fired into Poland?
Perhaps it was seized as a moment of opportunity for the Biden administration to pass another multi-billion dollar aid package it claims is in support of Zelensky and the Ukrainian people, when really much of the aid packages have been laundered back into Democrats’ pockets through the now-bankrupt FTX cryptocurrency company. It could also be an easy excuse for the Democrats to push through one last aid package on their agenda during the lame-duck session for Congress before Republicans take control of the House.
While the reasons for the false stories, misinformation, and unsupported accusations may not be fully known at this time, it is clear that two old maxims ring true. First, that “a lie can travel halfway around the world before the truth puts on its shoes” and lastly, as the world continues to witness the lies surrounding the war in Ukraine, that “truth is the first casualty in war.”
And in other news, Alec Baldwin still blames the gun manufacturer and other people for him pointing and pulling the trigger that killed the cinema photographer.
And the stooges aroungd here were calling Douglas Mac Gregor a kook. He has this one pegged.
Look out, they are going for an escalation.
False flag to provoke a war. This has been done before. See Mainila and Gleiwitz.
Other than a couple near catastrophic Cold War computer fails, maybe a serious auto wreck or tornado, you came closer to dying yesterday, we all did, than on any other day of your life. Me, I was six during the Cuban Missile Crisis. I had a half dozen there.
You’re right. They want to escalate.
Ukraine shot a miss-fired missile……the missile didn’t have a GPS tracker or destruct button ? Bull shit !
Good job, Banderites.
You shot down a tractor, 2 people and some farm animals...all while trying your damn best to start WWIII.
Oh, that Biden red line… them fightin words to Putin, I tell yah…
This technical argument about whether the missile really landed deliberately or was Ukrainian or what not, is absolutely ridiculous cowardice.
You mean to tell me we were not ready or expecting a spill over?
Putin knows that for all the incompetence of his military, we keep nevertheless showing weakness after weakness, no matter what.
Putin and no one is worried about the Banderites but NATO (dis)unity. Stop with the communist nonsense.
Anti-air missiles are supposed to self-destruct at altitude if targets are missed; however, the mechanism has frequently failed with Ukraine's older S-300 missiles. That's why you'll see some of them falling and exploding on cities in Ukraine after failing to intercept incoming Russian missiles. What goes up must come down, hopefully after it explodes.
It is also possible to use S-300 systems as surface-to-surface missiles (up to 120km range) by disarming the self-destruct mechanisms, but accuracy is poor and effectiveness is very limited in that role. They are best used in their designed role against aircraft and incoming missiles.
And back to that 120km max range... The point of impact is much farther than 120km from any Russian-held territory or from Belarus, so the S-300 missile that nailed the Polish farm tractor could only have been fired by the Ukrainians who were trying to shoot down incoming Russian missiles.
Denial is ignorance. Period.
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https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/06/03/ykgh-j03.html
‘Nazi collaborator monuments in Ukraine’
https://forward.com/news/462916/nazi-collaborator-monuments-in-ukraine/?amp=1
‘British Media ‘Whitewashing’ Ukrainian Neo-Nazis: UK Editor’
https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/British-Media-Whitewashing-Ukrainian-Neo-Nazis-UK-Editor-20220530-0001.html
‘Ukrainian Journalist Exposes the Azov Battalion’
https://usefulidiots.substack.com/p/ukrainian-journalist-exposes-the#details
‘Ukraine’s Neo-Nazis
https://www.thecitizen.in/index.php/en/NewsDetail/index/6/21533/Ukraines-Neo-Nazis?infinitescroll=1
‘Jon Stewart, DOD Honor AZOV BATTALION NAZI At Disney World’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zoB_6c0cag
‘Adam Schiff meets with members of Ukraine’s neo-Nazi Azov Battalion’
https://www.worldtribune.com/adam-schiff-meets-with-members-of-ukraines-neo-nazi-azov-battalion/
“Ukrainian paratroopers singing ‘Our father is Bandera, our mother is Ukraine.’
Bandera was the leader of Ukraine’s Nazi organization and murdered over 100,000 Poles and Jews in 1943-1944.
Just in case you still think the Ukrainian military and government isn’t filled with Nazis!”
https://twitter.com/historyoarmani2/status/1582458713222262784
‘Zelensky Speech With Nazi AZOV BATTALION Prompts Greek Lawmakers To WALK OUT’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0tAWaNEhU8
Start at the 4:58 mark-
‘RT News - Sep 19 2022’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtB_r5yazsg
‘The ideology of the Banderists’
https://www.voltairenet.org/article217363.html
“Ukronazi ‘good terrorists’ – a who’s who (infographic)”
http://thesaker.is/ukronazi-good-terrorists-a-whos-who-infographic/
‘The Presence of Neo-Nazis in Ukraine’
https://www.fairobserver.com/region/europe/medea-benjamin-nicolas-js-davies-ukraine-war-russia-ukranian-neo-nazi-fascists-azov-battalion-89292/
‘Ukraine underplays role of far right in conflict’
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30414955
‘How to Mainstream Neo-Nazis: A Lesson from Ukraine’s New Government’
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2019/10/21/how-to-mainstream-neo-nazis-a-lesson-from-ukraines-new-government/
‘Ukrainian Militia Behind Brutal Romany Attacks Getting State Funds’
https://www.rferl.org/a/ukrainian-militia-behind-brutal-romany-attacks-getting-state-funds/29290844.html
“Russia reacts to Azov neo-Nazi’s platform at prestigious US university”
https://www.rt.com/russia/564642-azov-delegation-stanford-university/
“2019 Stepan #Bandera year...A series of letters, from the #Polish and #Israeli embassies in #Ukraine protesting the #Zelensky governments
decision to pass laws commemorating #Nazis. They were sent only 2 years ago.”
https://mobile.twitter.com/BowesChay/status/1582690527316623360
‘Ukraine’s “Neo-Nazi Summer Camp”. Military Training for Young Children’
https://www.globalresearch.ca/military-training-for-young-children-at-ukraines-neo-nazi-summer-camp-recruitment-of-ukraines-child-soldiers-financed-by-us-nonlethal-military-aid/5472801
‘Kiev Street RENAMED To Honor AZOV BATTALLION’
https://rumble.com/v1q8pql-kiev-street-renamed-to-honor-azov-battallion.html
‘How The U.S. Learned To Love Neo-N@zis In Ukraine’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRi-A4WskYI
‘‘Now, All of You Are Azov’: ‘openly neo-Nazi’ Ukrainian delegation meets Congress, tours US’
https://thegrayzone.com/2022/10/05/azov-neo-nazi-ukrainian-congress/
‘Ukrainian paratroopers singing “Our father is Bandera, our mother is Ukraine”.
Bandera was the leader of Ukraine’s Nazi organization and murdered over 100,000 Poles and Jews in 1943-1944.
Just in case you still think the Ukrainian military and government isn’t filled with Nazis!’
https://twitter.com/historyoarmani2/status/1582458713222262784
‘Fast Forward to Fascism’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yvMu5HNU1A
Comrad, still fighting WWII and accuses others of starting WWIII…
Give me a break
Denial is ignorance. Period.
Enjoy it.
Breathe it in.
Look in your mirror.
And practice your hailing of a cab salute or better yet, your freedom salute.
Article 5 should be invoked against Ukraine as it has now launched unprovoked missile strikes on Hungary and Poland.
Perhaps, but don’t forget Article 11, which most do.
Wow, St. Petersburg must be paying you really well with all the time you are taking to put together such s long list of links trying to make Ukranians out as a bunch of Nazis. These days the main Nazi types at work are the onces running the Russian government.
On a separaate note, NATO seems to be walking back the idea that the deaths in Poland were caused by a deliberate missile strike sent by Russia. However, they also point out correctly that Russia IS responsible, because Ukraine would not be firing missiles, to try to destroy the ones being sent by Russia, which may have accidentally landed in Poland.
Yo, you pro-Ukrainian knuckleheads are stuck on stupid and it is pretty established that any one you don’t agree with is, well, you guessed it, paid by the Kremlin, etc.
At any rate, enjoy.....
‘Ukraine’s Epic Fail at Manufacturing a False Flag’.
https://sonar21.com/ukraines-epic-fail-at-manufacturing-a-false-flag/
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