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To: Mr Rogers
Oh, I just mentioned Detroit so you wouldn't think it was sour grapes special pleading.

You're obviously not arguing in good faith anymore.

In Arizona, you had 30%-50% of the tabulators ONLY IN HIGHLY-RED PRECINCTS not working; reports of tabulators working until an election tech showed up;

thousands of voters told to go elsewhere;

ballots on the wrong size paper (again, only in highly red districts);

people being told in the highly red distrcts to put their ballots into "Box 3" -- and the contents were then "accidentally" put into large plastic bags mixed with already-counted votes, so there was no way to tell which ballots had not yet been counted;

one of the election judges reporting this was threatened with firing for talking about it;

election workers shouting down a woman who had just tried to vote, going to those waiting in line to warn them of problems;

Exit polling showing Dems got 17% of the same-day in-person vote, but the actual recorded votes showing Dem totals so high, they'd have had to get 100% of the Dem AND 100% of the independent vote (this despite the overwhelming pre-election popularity of Lake);

and major discrepancies in vote totals for different offices (including some number of ballots I can't recall, which ONLY had a vote for governor, just like happened with the middle of the night drops for Biden in swing states in 2020).

That's off the top of my head; there may be many more I haven't run across.

99 posted on 11/16/2022 7:58:37 AM PST by grey_whiskers ( (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.))
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To: grey_whiskers

Lake, as much as I liked her, did NOT have overwhelming pre-election popularity. She was ahead in the polls by around 2%. Based on previous years, I assumed that meant she was ahead by 5-6%, but she didn’t poll overwhelming. And there are multiple states where the polling was off by 3% in favor or Republicans.

Also, her comments about McCain in the final days of the election may have hurt her in Maricopa. Tabulators were only an issue for a few hours. Didn’t hear anything about paper being the wrong size.

And here in Pima County, very liberal Pima County, there were no ballot issues. Nor were there any issues in the heavily red rural counties.

Bitter Robson Republicans (aka McCain Republicans) are sufficient to account for our losses. Where was Ducey? Crickets. The AG went on national TV to attack Lake the weekend before the election. Robson? Disappeared!

The Friday before the election, Kari Lake said, “Boy, Arizona has delivered some losers, haven’t they? We don’t have any McCain Republicans in here, do we? Well, get the hell out!”

In Pima, I didn’t hear that until after the election. I fully agree with the sentiments. I refused to vote for McCain in his last two general elections. But it wouldn’t have helped her any in Maricopa. If that comment got air play in Maricopa, it could have cost her 50,000 votes. Which would be the difference between winning and losing.

“Exit polling showing Dems got 17% of the same-day in-person vote, but the actual recorded votes showing Dem totals so high, they’d have had to get 100% of the Dem AND 100% of the independent vote”

Actually, Kari got 55% of the election day vote in Maricopa. She needed just a little more. After all, she only fell 17,000 votes short out of 2.6 million cast - about 0.6%.

Maricopa voter registration is 34.3% Republican, 34.6% Independent and 30.3% Democrat. So if Kari got all of the Republican vote on election day, she still carried a majority of Independents - about 70% of independents. But the early vote in Arizona is huge and it wasn’t quite enough. Very close, but not quite.

And yes, Maricopa voting sucks. Since 4 of 5 members of the Board of Supervisors are Republicans, that doesn’t say much for Maricopa Republicans - who tend to be Big Business, Cheap Labor, and Social Liberals.


118 posted on 11/16/2022 10:02:26 AM PST by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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