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20 trillion down the drain. Largest state arms production program in Russian history halted due to failures in Ukraine
The Moscow Times ^ | November 11, 2022 | The Moscow Times

Posted on 11/11/2022 3:43:38 PM PST by Widget Jr

The largest state program for the production of weapons in modern Russian history, for which 20 trillion rubles were allocated from the federal budget over the past 10 years, has been scrapped.

In early November, Russian President Vladimir Putin instructed to rewrite the army supply standards and bring them into line with the real needs of the armed forces. According to Putin's list of instructions, the order must be implemented as soon as possible - before November 14. Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin and Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu were appointed responsible.

De facto, Putin has suspended the State Armaments Program (SAP), the basic plan on which the military-industrial complex has been operating in recent years. The current SAP has ceased to be a document by which weapons are purchased and financed by the military-industrial complex, a source close to the Ministry of Defense and a top manager of a defense industry enterprise told Vedomosti.

In fact, the development of the new SAP, which was estimated at 22 trillion rubles, has also been suspended, one of the sources of the publication says. The reason, according to him, is that it is necessary to “revise priorities”, based on the experience of the campaign in Ukraine.

Launched in the early 2010s and then expanded every five years, the state arms production program “ate up” about two trillion rubles a year—two-thirds of the defense budget. According to the plan, by 2020, divisions of Armata tanks, a new strategic bomber, 600 aircraft and thousands of helicopters were to enter the troops, and the share of modern weapons was to grow to 70%.

But the Russian army entered Ukraine on old equipment, with paper maps, and in a few months they exhausted their stocks of high-precision missiles. After mass mobilization, she was forced to distribute equipment from the Second World War to untrained soldiers. For weapons, the Kremlin had to turn to Iran and North Korea, and for uniforms for the military - to Belarus. But even this was not enough: after the mass mobilization of the Ministry of Defense, it was forced to distribute equipment from the Second World War to untrained soldiers. Contrary to the forecasts of American intelligence that Kyiv could fall in three days, Russian troops were on the verge of a fiasco, surrendering half of the conquered territories by early November, including the Kharkov region and Kherson.

At the moment, the Russian military-industrial complex is no longer able to manufacture and maintain "critical equipment for operations in Ukraine," U.S. Deputy Treasury Secretary Wally Adeyemo said Oct. 14.

Western sanctions hit the military-industrial complex, cutting off factories from high-tech goods. The most deplorable situation has developed in Russian microelectronics, where there are practically no components for the production of weapons, Adeyemo said.


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To: buwaya

—”Russia would have to overturn its entire social system to substantially reform. “

The depth of the corruption is beyond incredible.

A most interesting report on DW(German NPR???):

“How Russia‘s corrupt ‘police state‘ sells it own spies “
https://youtu.be/s15FkbIMdqA

A 26 min video, mostly compelling, if time is short tune in at the ~15 min mark.

Lower-level Russian workers selling phone records and more...


21 posted on 11/11/2022 8:39:00 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: Widget Jr

Ping. Looks like Russians will corrupt themselves out of business. We have similar problems with our military - defense establishment.

Proof in the pudding is Russia being forced to buy artillery shells from North Korea. Drones and missiles from Iran. Nicolai Patrushev was in Iran last week trying to reason with the ayatollahs, to sell Russia more drones and missiles


22 posted on 11/11/2022 8:49:28 PM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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To: Widget Jr
Russia is going up against the combined might of Western industry. Left alone without infusion of Western-made components, their industry cannot even dream of coming close to match them. The Russian industry will be irreversibly damaged unless the West decide to help rebuild their industry after the war. I believe odds of it happening are slim to none for now. I think the West wants to make sure that Russia would never have the industrial capacity to wage another large conventional war against the West. We are more than half-way there.
23 posted on 11/11/2022 9:32:59 PM PST by TigerLikesRoosterNew
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To: TigerLikesRoosterNew

LOL. How about Russia and China produce competencies in areas currently dominated by Western powers? It worked just great for them previously.
The article is a bunch of baloney.
The armament program is getting scrapped because it was geared towards “small hightech professional army” which is not going to work in current realities.
The US MIC is going to follow. If you think that the Russian industry is incapable, you need to do a research on how the American one operates. In current from it is not going to sustain a major war.


24 posted on 11/12/2022 1:01:38 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking
Production can be shifted toward simpler cheaper hardware which can be mass-produced. You don't have to worry about US. They are changing too. If both try the same approach, Russia is still in disadvantage. It would still require modern electronic hardware, precision manufacturing, and very specialized materials(instrumental in mass-producing aforementioned sophisticated hardware), and advanced control software

If you think about the role of drones in this war, you may see where this is heading to. Mass production of swarm drones and advanced control system to use them as a coordinated swarm. China may match in terms of quantity. Quality is a different matter. Quantity of hardware and quality of control software would be a key.

25 posted on 11/12/2022 2:02:51 AM PST by TigerLikesRoosterNew
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To: NorseViking

By the way, industrial efficiency in Russia does not seem to be good. If manufacturing process is inefficient and faulty, you have problems no matter what you try.


26 posted on 11/12/2022 2:05:47 AM PST by TigerLikesRoosterNew
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To: TigerLikesRoosterNew

I heard from Obama that Russia is going to starve after 2014 sanctions. It has become the top food exporter instead.


27 posted on 11/12/2022 2:11:07 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: Widget Jr

Change the program all he wants, but the money will still be stolen.


28 posted on 11/12/2022 9:11:51 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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