Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

20 trillion down the drain. Largest state arms production program in Russian history halted due to failures in Ukraine
The Moscow Times ^ | November 11, 2022 | The Moscow Times

Posted on 11/11/2022 3:43:38 PM PST by Widget Jr

The largest state program for the production of weapons in modern Russian history, for which 20 trillion rubles were allocated from the federal budget over the past 10 years, has been scrapped.

In early November, Russian President Vladimir Putin instructed to rewrite the army supply standards and bring them into line with the real needs of the armed forces. According to Putin's list of instructions, the order must be implemented as soon as possible - before November 14. Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin and Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu were appointed responsible.

De facto, Putin has suspended the State Armaments Program (SAP), the basic plan on which the military-industrial complex has been operating in recent years. The current SAP has ceased to be a document by which weapons are purchased and financed by the military-industrial complex, a source close to the Ministry of Defense and a top manager of a defense industry enterprise told Vedomosti.

In fact, the development of the new SAP, which was estimated at 22 trillion rubles, has also been suspended, one of the sources of the publication says. The reason, according to him, is that it is necessary to “revise priorities”, based on the experience of the campaign in Ukraine.

Launched in the early 2010s and then expanded every five years, the state arms production program “ate up” about two trillion rubles a year—two-thirds of the defense budget. According to the plan, by 2020, divisions of Armata tanks, a new strategic bomber, 600 aircraft and thousands of helicopters were to enter the troops, and the share of modern weapons was to grow to 70%.

But the Russian army entered Ukraine on old equipment, with paper maps, and in a few months they exhausted their stocks of high-precision missiles. After mass mobilization, she was forced to distribute equipment from the Second World War to untrained soldiers. For weapons, the Kremlin had to turn to Iran and North Korea, and for uniforms for the military - to Belarus. But even this was not enough: after the mass mobilization of the Ministry of Defense, it was forced to distribute equipment from the Second World War to untrained soldiers. Contrary to the forecasts of American intelligence that Kyiv could fall in three days, Russian troops were on the verge of a fiasco, surrendering half of the conquered territories by early November, including the Kharkov region and Kherson.

At the moment, the Russian military-industrial complex is no longer able to manufacture and maintain "critical equipment for operations in Ukraine," U.S. Deputy Treasury Secretary Wally Adeyemo said Oct. 14.

Western sanctions hit the military-industrial complex, cutting off factories from high-tech goods. The most deplorable situation has developed in Russian microelectronics, where there are practically no components for the production of weapons, Adeyemo said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: 0iqputintrolls; 0iqrussiantrolls; 5hill4democrats; globalistpropaganda; globalistreality; globalistsrapeputin; invasion; putin; putinlovertrollsonfr; putinrapesrussia; putinsbuttboys; putinswar; putinswarofchoice; putinworshippers; russia; russiansuicide; ukraine; vladtheimploder; zottherussiantrolls
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-28 next last
Hat tip Preston Stewart's YouTube Channel community post. This is the Google translation and translated links from the Russian posted in the link, to the official Kremlin.ru webpage and Vedomosti, a Russian daily business newspaper, respectively. Over the last decade, Russia was supposed to have modernized and procured new equipment like the T-14 Aramata. That did not happen and Russia is pulling T-62s out of storage. Russia's ability to keep fighting this war is running into the reality of the actual capacity of their military production. Russia may recover, the question is can they before the war is effectively over.
1 posted on 11/11/2022 3:43:38 PM PST by Widget Jr
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Widget Jr

1 ruble = .016 USD


2 posted on 11/11/2022 3:50:04 PM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Widget Jr

Russia would have to overturn its entire social system to substantially reform. It would have to completely expunge nearly every institutional hierarchy, not just the military.


3 posted on 11/11/2022 3:53:36 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: jacknhoo
1 ruble = .016 USD

So if someone asked you to give them your two cents' worth, you could give them a ruble and be pretty close.

4 posted on 11/11/2022 3:57:13 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Widget Jr
Russia's ability to keep fighting this war is running into the reality of the actual capacity of their military production.

More like running into the actual perfection of their graft and corruption.

Putin might wind up killing more generals than Stalin did.

5 posted on 11/11/2022 3:57:14 PM PST by Alas Babylon! (Rush, we're missing your take on all of this!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: buwaya

You think corruption is bad here.....Read this article.

Reminds me of the California Bullet Train.


6 posted on 11/11/2022 3:59:08 PM PST by traderrob6
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Widget Jr

..........my GUESS is about 20% of what Congress and the President appropriate for defense ends up in bribes to Congressmen and women and others while in Russia it’s probably more like half.


7 posted on 11/11/2022 4:05:26 PM PST by Cen-Tejas
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Widget Jr

Bkmk


8 posted on 11/11/2022 4:05:46 PM PST by sauropod (Fascists also buy Comcast cable packages" - Olby - Wanna buy mine?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Widget Jr

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU
for posting this article!


9 posted on 11/11/2022 4:11:22 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion, )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Widget Jr
20 trillion down the drain...

Might as well join the f****** peace corps. - Brother 'Bluto' Blutarsky
10 posted on 11/11/2022 4:28:43 PM PST by SpaceBar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Widget Jr

1989 is knocking.


11 posted on 11/11/2022 4:32:38 PM PST by Izzatso
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Widget Jr
This is the real story of the war. There were a lot of rumors and speculation about the true state of Russian logistics/equipment for a very long time, but no real way to check it. Turns out that the worst case predictions were pretty much true.

Conscription/mobilization can't fix a lack of equipment and supplies. Might even make it worse.

12 posted on 11/11/2022 4:36:29 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Widget Jr

What is that? About 25 bucks?


13 posted on 11/11/2022 4:46:08 PM PST by GaryCrow
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Widget Jr

Well, yeah.

War Mapper
A timelapse of the rapid Ukrainian advance to liberate Kherson city and secure the areas of Kherson Oblast north of the Dnipro river.
https://twitter.com/War_Mapper/status/1591220371994607616?s=20&t=7K5L7hZFi5PowuHXUoYObw


14 posted on 11/11/2022 5:20:28 PM PST by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Widget Jr

The problem for Russia is the corruption. Always has been.


15 posted on 11/11/2022 5:21:55 PM PST by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: traderrob6

California would have to completely overturn its society in order to reform. Every California institution, public and private, will have to completely purge its leadership.

More than that, the pipelines that feed into leadership positions in every sphere of life will also have to be purged.
We are talking about a whole couple of generations of educated people that will need to be “lost”, or, rather, thrown away, as spoiled material.

Thats what it will take to fix California, and by extension the bulk of the United States.


16 posted on 11/11/2022 5:37:39 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Izzatso

Since the CCCP officially dissolved on December 26, 1991 that is not a bad guess. The longer the war goes on the greater the probability Russia faces another collapse. I am starting to think the invasion is turning Russia into a suicide cult on a two year suicide pact. During the first year the Russian military dies. 300,000 conscripts who barely know how to wear their uniforms or hold rifles will not change this. During the second year, the Russian government and economy die next. The Russian economy is dependent on the sale of oil and gas to buy what is needed to run the rest of the economy. Long term Russia is having its global trade cut deep. Even if Russia does not collapse again, the country will be so weakened politically and economically it will be hard to tell the difference.


17 posted on 11/11/2022 5:52:07 PM PST by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni 🇺🇦 - Just say no to CCCP 2.0)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: buwaya

Purging leadership won’t be enough because those people will inevitably find their way back into government.

No, we are past the point where much more aggressive actions are required.


18 posted on 11/11/2022 5:52:13 PM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Widget Jr; jacknhoo

Interesting article, if true but it does not pass the smell test in my opinion.

According to “jacknhoo” 1 Ruble = $.016 so the math says 22 Trillion Rubles = $352 Billion US.

Yet according to Wikipedia the entire Russian military budget for 2022-20221 was only $65.9 Billion US.

So forgive me but I doubt Russia has spent $352 Billion on a single arms production program.


19 posted on 11/11/2022 6:06:47 PM PST by Four of Six
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Four of Six

It’s for 10 years, sir, read the source….


20 posted on 11/11/2022 6:43:19 PM PST by exinnj
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-28 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson