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Firefighters: Massachusetts canceling civil-service exams following court case
(Bostonherald.com ^ | 11/11/2022 | Sean Philip Cotter

Posted on 11/11/2022 10:58:22 AM PST by massmike

The state has canceled the upcoming fire civil-service promotional exam and “will not score” the recent statewide exam for police in light of a recent Boston-based court case.

The court case in question is Tatum et al v. Commonwealth of Massachusetts, a suit from several Black or Hispanic police officers filed back in 2009 as they claimed that the civil-service sergeants’ promotional exam disadvantaged minority test takers, leading to lower scores and therefore delayed or missed promotions through the centralized and highly regimented process used by many police and fire departments.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: bellcurve; blacksupremacy; brownsupremacy; diversity; massachusetts
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21 posted on 11/11/2022 11:25:33 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how thery control you. )
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To: massmike

but they never tell you what questions they couldn’t answer cause they black...


22 posted on 11/11/2022 11:31:58 AM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: MGunny

“When is this madness going to end?”

Take a look at the commercials now. If there’s a white actor it’s not a speaking role and if it is, he portrays an idiot. There are still white women, but they portray a lesbian. If you’re a white male actor you’d might as well quit now. The same is true for many professions where the employer is a government or government contractor. Probably this is true also for dozens of other professions. As an engineering contractor, in my final job I was used as a place holder for a “person of color” and the HR manager actually told me that. The fact that I did an outstanding job was irrelevant.

This will force intelligent white men to become entrepreneurs. Probably, they’ll start their own YouTube channels as the income there is based on how good you are rather than what you are.

This kind of discrimination is why so many Jews are actors, bankers and Jewlers. They were banned from other professions, and they had to be able to pick up their tools and flee at a moment’s notice. It’s hard to spot trends like this while they’re happening, but a hundred years from now probably most of the people with successful online businesses will be white and male.


23 posted on 11/11/2022 11:32:01 AM PST by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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To: massmike

IMHO this is not about “diversity or equity” rather it is about concentrating fascist, democrat power. Usually, things are never as they seem on the surface.


24 posted on 11/11/2022 11:36:10 AM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Gen.Blather
Good post.

I've felt for years that white men in general are portrayed badly on television mainly because most white men have no interest in watching television other than sports.

25 posted on 11/11/2022 11:37:53 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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To: TheBattman
I have yet to see a single example of how these tests are discriminatory and disadvantage minorities.

It's right in the article-- "disparate impact". That means that minorities perform more poorly on the exam than whites, so that in itself proves it is racist.

26 posted on 11/11/2022 11:53:12 AM PST by LambSlave
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To: rbg81
"Sure thing. Just give our promotions based on race, gender and bootlicking."

Back in 1984, NY State held a promotional Correctional Sergeant's exam. We didn't know it at the time, but once the scores came out, it was decided that they would be giving minorities extra points. I'm a white female. I got a 92, and was told by the prison Superintendent that I would probably be promoted within the year. Five years later, I finally got my promotion, while I saw people who had scored lower than me on the test, promoted far earlier than me...people who never would have been reached on the list any other way. I lost time in title, and the increased salary that went with the promotion for years because of those extra points. The funny thing is, that at the time, NY State had far more blacks and hispanics working in uniform in Corrections, than white females, yet we were not considered a minority. It was the one and only time that they offered extra points to minorities on Correctional Civil Service exams.

I did the remaining years of my career as a Sergeant. Took the Lieutenant's test, but chose not to accept any offers if they ever came, because I wasn't willing to give up the seniority I had as a Sergeant, and start all over again as a Lieutenant in another prison downstate. It wasn't worth being inconvenienced just to get a few bucks more, along with the responsibility that went with it. If I needed extra money, I'd just work overtime, or get a second job. I retired in 2003. I start my 20th year of retirement next month.

27 posted on 11/11/2022 12:02:19 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: massmike

“Pick me! I’m the right chocolate color!”


28 posted on 11/11/2022 12:17:00 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (The “I” in Democrat stands for “Integrity.”)
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To: Grampa Dave

I read several years ago that police entrance exams are designed to select for applicants with an IQ of 115-125 ideally.

Obviously, that bar is too high for some people.


29 posted on 11/11/2022 12:17:26 PM PST by seowulf (Civilization begins with order, grows with liberty, and dies with chaos...Will Durant)
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To: Gen.Blather

There are still white women, but they portray a lesbian.


Most of the white women I see on commercials are coupled up with a big, strong, imposing black male. And at times, with their mahomesesc-haired kiddos.


30 posted on 11/11/2022 12:20:06 PM PST by Deepeasttx ( Sensitivity/diversity training, along with CRT are all un-walled reeducation camps....for now.)
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To: massmike

Firefighting is a lot more than lifting ladders and pointing hoses. It takes real knowledge of building structure and electrical hazards, chemical hazards, explosives, terrorist strategy, confined space hazards, unstable vehicles, structures, cliffs, airplanes, airbags and batteries in cars, moving water, traffic, health concerns for active firefighting, heat, cold, inhalation, cardiac, respiratory, traumatic injury, interacting with law enforcement, EMS, Feds, Medevac....on and on and on.

If the test covers relevant material, it is non-discriminatory on race, only on knowledge. If someone cannot pass it, he can study harder, or accept working under someone who does know the material.


31 posted on 11/11/2022 12:20:35 PM PST by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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To: massmike

Reminds me of some ‘teacher’ on the West Coast who wanted to become an administrator, vice principal.
There is a test that has, yes, math. After a few times failing the exam, he filed suit claiming, yes, racism. I spent some time teaching math in middle school (I just love that age group, total aliens). There were several teachers who were only a few years from retirement. They became Vice Principals for about 1.5 years. This allowed their retirement check to be much higher. Game the system any way they can.


32 posted on 11/11/2022 12:37:19 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try. )
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To: massmike

I wonder what firefighting knowledge only whites know? Ditto for white cops.


33 posted on 11/11/2022 12:52:31 PM PST by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals)
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To: massmike

always ask

What about the Asians?

It seems that everything is seen as favoring whites, when it really favors Asians, so there must be more to it than racism.


34 posted on 11/11/2022 1:11:42 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: massmike

Nice to know we’ll have tards for firefighters.


35 posted on 11/11/2022 1:12:29 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: redshawk

anyone know where to get a copy of this ‘racist’ exam?
= = =

First of all it is printed on white paper, with Black ink.

It is mostly white, with very little Black.

ipso facto q.e.d.


36 posted on 11/11/2022 1:38:17 PM PST by Scrambler Bob
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To: heartwood

...can study harder...
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I was in massage school in the early 1990s. By far the oldest student at around 50. Most of the younger (up to 30) students hated any tests. They insisted they could *do the hands-on* and that was all that mattered. They derided learning “this muscle stuff” and scoffed when told they could kill someone if they weren’t aware of anatomy.

It was equal parts poor reading & comprehension skill, poor study skills, and laziness. Ironically, one of the best students was a quiet Haitian woman in her 30s who was capable of reading, comprehension and had terrific hands-on technique. Her mother had lupus and helping her was her main motivation.

The young whites hated being told anything at all, including to clip their nails in private (sparked a serious and furious push back when it was mentioned). Their attitude was they were _paying_ for instruction and that made them the *customer* and the customer is always right.

They wasted incredible amounts of the class time they were paying for arguing about how they didn’t need to learn anything. This was in a state with mandatory board certification for licensing, a fact they all knew and were in constant rebellion against.


37 posted on 11/11/2022 2:10:52 PM PST by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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To: reformedliberal

A great masseuse is worth every penny.

My lower back hurts from a lot of time from being in the hospital and surgery.

Today was my second one and I feel like I could stand an inch taller. My muscles are apparently very tight.


38 posted on 11/11/2022 4:59:34 PM PST by wally_bert (I cannot be sure for certain, but in my personal opinion I am certain that I am not sure.)
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To: wally_bert

It is physical labor with additional knowledge requirements.

My husband was certified in Neuromuscular Massage Therapy, which is anatomically-based and targeted to alleviate medical conditions. Worth looking for such certs. A private practice PT w/an NMT certification often works on physician referral, but, being private practice, is not bound by insurance limits of 15” per area indicated by MD.

Best referrals are word of mouth and best physician referrals come from DOs. When you find a good therapist, stick with them. They usually retire early due to the physical demand

Releasing the tense, guarded muscles is the entire goal. Often, people feel like they’ve been hit by a truck after their 1st session. It gets better after that.


39 posted on 11/11/2022 5:17:09 PM PST by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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To: reformedliberal

Thank you for the advice.

I looked and the closest one I found is in Augusta GA with me in Columbia SC.


40 posted on 11/11/2022 5:21:01 PM PST by wally_bert (I cannot be sure for certain, but in my personal opinion I am certain that I am not sure.)
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