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Virginia’s GOP lt. governor won’t back Trump in 2024: ‘I just couldn’t’
The Hill ^ | 11/10/2022 | Jared Gans

Posted on 11/10/2022 1:56:51 PM PST by ChicagoConservative27

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To: qaz123

Thanks for this absolutely terrific post.


61 posted on 11/10/2022 3:24:43 PM PST by JonPreston
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To: packagingguy

We are not going to win because the elections are not secure. We said we must win the last time and you can see how well that worked out.

We aren’t going to fight this world wide WEF movement of the globalists by voting. They simply fix the elections to keep themselves in power until it all collapses. Then they will build back better their commie slave state. They have told us what they are going to do for a while now.

Why don’t we listen?
Voting will be totally not necessary.


62 posted on 11/10/2022 3:29:25 PM PST by dforest
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

“Choosing good subordinates and building positive relationships with other powerful politicians is a critical element in political leadership. Otherwise, it becomes very difficult to get much done.”

It works both ways.

What did you think of the suckers & losers who blew off the 2016 Republican Convention?

Or

The same group of clowns enabling Russia, Russia, and Mueller time which hobbled the Trump Presidency from the start.


63 posted on 11/10/2022 3:33:09 PM PST by unclebankster (Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Donors and the old repuke guard got to her.


64 posted on 11/10/2022 3:33:34 PM PST by ChuckHam
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
Trump, as President of the entire country and as Fauci’s boss, never once spoke out against the lockdowns or against Fauci. At least DeSantis was one of the very first Republicans to break from the Trump Administration’s guidance, reopen his state, and openly criticized Fauci. Trump never did.

I remember people flying into Florida having to lock down for 14 days. That was a DeSantis requirement.

65 posted on 11/10/2022 3:33:44 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: qaz123

Thank you


66 posted on 11/10/2022 3:33:53 PM PST by dforest
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To: Skywise

No she won’t, once they’re bought they stay bought.


67 posted on 11/10/2022 3:35:01 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

DeSantis is much better at choosing subordinates, and at building coalitions, than is Trump .... again, you’re blaming Pres Trump for things that folks should know were NOT entirely in his control and that some of the early ones definitely did not live up to their billing. And Pres Trump came from the business world...My way or highway. No politics.

As for DeSantis, everyone around him that I mentioned was elected by the people. And the people elected, thankfully, like minded folks. His supporting cast is 100% on the same page as he is. And if I’m not mistake there was one Republican in the Florida legislature that has either been voted out or told to STFU.

Does DeSantis have Chief’s of Staff stabbing him in the back every day like President Trump did with Preibus or Kelly? NOPE.

Let’s take two people from the Trump administration: Sessions and Mattis. Did you, or anyone else for that matter, ever think that Sessions would roll over and do the dying cockroach within a month or two(or however long it took them to drop the Russia Gate lie on the country) of being confirmed? Did you, or anyone else every think that Mattis, the greatest Marine General since Chesty would turn out to be a Leftist, Globalist stooge that supported Clinton?

All the other folks, were folks that were approved by McConnell. Not one person that he didn’t approve of was going to get through any confirmation. That’s why, toward the end, if you remember, Pres Trump started naming interims in many positions. It forced McConnell’s hand. The interim had a certain amount of time to be the interim. After that they had to have a confirmation hearing and since Republican’s controlled everything, they couldn’t be seen as not confirming one of the President’s picks. If they passed on the confirmation, the person could stay for one more term as the interim. Pres Trump figured it all out. Too late, IMHO.

Were they all perfect. Hardly. Did they all put up a front as being on board with everything? Yup and many of them turned out to be frauds.

As for Mnuchin, Lighthizer, Navarro, and Ross...I think they were folks that McConnell thought would play the Establishment game and instead played for Team Trump and did some wonderful things, but by then it was too late for McConnell to do anything. After all, how could McConnell come out and say that a renegotiated trade deal, beneficial to the US and US manufacturing was a bad thing. It may have hurt him personally and financially, but he couldn’t go public with his graft.


68 posted on 11/10/2022 3:38:49 PM PST by qaz123
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To: ChicagoConservative27

And it is working...they are already splitting the republicans.


69 posted on 11/10/2022 3:40:05 PM PST by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Oh look....
A circular firing squad.
The R’s can be such self righteous a-holes.


70 posted on 11/10/2022 3:45:15 PM PST by gathersnomoss (LIVE FREE OR DIE)
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I didn’t believe I could ever feel this way, but the MSM
has been right all along. Hillary was right. She and
those who tried to remove Trump for collusion with Russia
were right. Those who conspired to use illegal means to
remove Trump by election there-by pull off a coup, they
were right.

Trump was wrong to build the wall. He was wrong to
appoint SCOTUS justices who would strike down Roe v
Wade.

He was wrong to institute policies that saw our stock
markets roar. He was wrong to institute policies that
kept our energy prices low and product abundant. He
was wrong to reduce the unemployment rates for Blacks,
Hispanics, and women to all time lows.

I could go on, but you catch my drift. He has said
some bad illogical things, and this time they’ve
finally got him on the run like they always promised
they would. Thank heaven for that.

Trump’s Dastardly Accomplishments

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/trump-administration-accomplishments/

He didn’t allow people to trash him and remain silent
He didn’t come down on the side of the illegal immigrant.
He didn’t praise Leftists and agree with the One World
Odor. How could I have been so blind, and so critical
of the Bush family for doing these sorts of things.

If only I could take all that back.

I can’t image four more years of the kind of things
Trump did last time, and so I join the DNC, the RNC,
the GOPe, the MSM, and every Leftist Democrat and
the RINOs, to condemn Trump and demand he pass the
torch to someone who knows what they are doing.

Mitch, Paul, a whole host of Republicans who slandered
him and demanded he step down, were right.

Refusing to work with him was the best thing that
ever happened to this nation.

Pelosi, Rove, the Bushes, the Cheney’s, the McCains,
McConnell, Ryan, and so many more wise people, I have
come to understand that you were right all along.

It’s time to move on from Trump.

I see so many of my FReeper buds now saying this, and
although I thought they should be ashamed for acting
like that, I have come to see just how wise they were.

I’d like to suggest we get behind De Santis, but then
I realized he would certainly support about 99.99% of
what Trump did, so I’d just like to cut to the chase
now rather than waste another four years, when we
would turn on him too.

So lets look for someone that doesn’t believe in what
Trump does. Liz Cheney, Megan McCain... I don’t know
guys, these women were out there trashing Trump long
before any of us were. I’ve had to change my long
standing disagreement with them.

CNN, the View, all these amazing places that said things
about Trump that so many of us now seem to agree with,
I salute these people. Finally, I can watch these
programs and feel at home with my fellow travelers.

If only we had listened.

I don’t know about others, but I feel so much better
knowing I have the best fellow travelers I could have
now that I’ve seen the light.

He’s finally on the run. He’ll withdraw from public
life any day now. He’ll be in prison within months if
he doesn’t, perhaps anyway.

/s


71 posted on 11/10/2022 3:52:53 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the U S of A, and the REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: qaz123
Trump hired those people, and had multiple opportunities to replace with better people during his four years. If he didn't, that's on him. And I see literally zero sign that his second term would be any better in that regard. Likely worse because he's alienated even more people now.

I don't care that he came from the business world. He wanted the job, so do the damn jobthe right way, including picking the right subordinates, without making the "I just didn know" excuse.

72 posted on 11/10/2022 4:10:18 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: jimwatx

But endorsing Oz, McCarthy for speaker, the jab, not firing Fauci, appointing Christopher Wray and Bill Barr all ok?


73 posted on 11/10/2022 4:36:48 PM PST by TiGuy22
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Lets pick this apart...again.

Trump hired those people, and had multiple opportunities to replace with better people during his four years...Trump had to get many of those people through a confirmation process controlled by McConnell. McConnell wasn’t confirming anyone that he didn’t want confirmed. Judges included. If you think otherwise, feel free to do so. Pres Trump had a roster to pick from. A roster given to him by the Establishment, whether you like it or not, want to accept it or not. He had Whitaker as AG for a while. Someone that was never going to get through the confirmation process. But, Barr could.

so do the damn jobthe right way....was the right way thinking that you had like minded folks in the Republican held Congress, only to realize that aside from tax cuts, they blocked you at every turn, didn’t help you fund a border wall, didn’t help you on anything so you had to resort to figuring out ways to go around them, using existing laws that none of them knew about and EOs? The man got ZERO help from anyone in Congress except for the Republican’s that are still labeled as the fringe...Greene, Boebert, Gohmert, Biggs and Roy. He got ZERO help from the Senate.

So, do tell, how was he supposed to do a job, needing help from the co-equal branch of government, controlled by Republican’s for his first two years, where that same co-equal branch was more concerned with stopping him?

I find it funny that everyone talks about the bang-up job that DeSantis is doing, but no one mentions the states legislature. As if DeSantis does everything. No one else even shows up for work because they don’t have to, DeSantis is doing it all.

The man asked for an actual budget. Would have been the first budget in over 8 or 10 years and they laughed at him. He submitted one and they through it in the shredder. Instead they forced his hand for four years into signing CRs.

He was one man against the entire federal government and about 529 members of Congress, who controlled the money and everything else.

And I see literally zero sign that his second term would be any better in that regard...again where we will 100% disagree. By his second term, he had them all figured out. He exposed them all and the people knew it. Ergo, why he got more votes than anyone in history. But, they stole it from him, you, me and all of us. They got back their status quo and now we’re in the shape we’re in.


74 posted on 11/10/2022 4:57:38 PM PST by qaz123
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