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Ukraine receives first delivery of NASAMS air defence systems
Reuters ^ | November 7, 2022 | Reuters Staff Reporter

Posted on 11/08/2022 11:26:53 AM PST by Timber Rattler

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To: hardspunned
It would take months or years to train up the Ukes to operate these systems anyway.

LOL, it takes 'years' to train people to operate this system? Right

41 posted on 11/08/2022 12:35:32 PM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: hardspunned

The reason why Ukraine has been invaded by Russia is because weak Joe Biden and NOT Donald Trump is in the White House.

Russia / Putin feared how Trump would have responded so they never would have invaded Ukraine.

I can only imagine if Trump was forced to respond in the way the Russians feared, his response would have likely been detested even more than what Biden is presently doing (which is too little and too late) - unless you’re a hypocrite.

If you’re doing this out of pure politics, focusing on Joe Biden’s weakness and how it has helped Putin make the decision to invade is where the problem started. That’s how we got to where we are.

Those weapons being sent to Ukraine had already been destined to be targeting Russian troops decades ago. Only difference is, the 75,000+ Russian troops killed in Ukraine were killed by Ukrainians and not by American troops.

I never switched and supported the Viet Cong because a Democrat was in the White House and I’m certainly not going to switch to supporrt the Kremlin simply because Joe Biden is in the White House today.


42 posted on 11/08/2022 12:39:15 PM PST by tsowellfan
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To: hardspunned
It would take months or years to train up the Ukes to operate these systems anyway

Pentagon said it took 3 weeks to train Ukrainian crews to operate the HIMARS and two weeks to learn maintenance.

But at the time, the Pentagon said it would take some three weeks to train teams to operate them, and another two weeks for maintenance.

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220609-ukraine-forces-need-deliberate-training-on-new-rocket-system-us

43 posted on 11/08/2022 12:41:28 PM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: Kazan
NASAMS have inferior spects compared to Ukraine’s dwindling supply of S-300s;

You expect us to actually believe that, Comrade Kazan?

44 posted on 11/08/2022 12:43:15 PM PST by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Lurker

I’m still a little miffed about the Mexican cough but whatever. Yeah, the US military was 10,000 miles from home in both cases (on the Russian border in one case) being responsible for what 2-3 million deaths over a total of 15 years trying to keep that first domino, 10,000 miles from us, from falling. Yes, they did give inferior weapons to their treaty partners which resulted in Americans dying. Of course, as you insist can’t happen in Ukraine, we killed many, many Russians manning those weapons. Compare that to this situation. The greatest offensive military behemoth the world has ever seen is sitting on the Russian border, a days tank ride from Moscow, preaching regime change in Moscow. That machine’s technology which make theirs trash is currently killing tens of thousands of Russians, including Russian civilians, on their border and in Russia. We have no treaty obligation, we have never been threatened by their Uke moves. We have no reason to be there other than the regime change in Moscow we preach. But no, you and the globalists have decreed the Russians can not react to potentially their LAST domino falling, on their border, 300 miles from Moscow. Media addled vapid empty headed thinking like this will result in WWIII.


45 posted on 11/08/2022 12:45:39 PM PST by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: cranked

Russia is bad. That’s all you need to know. If you do not know that it’s YOUR responsibility to do research, I am not your school teacher.

Most of my Ukraine war news info comes from outside the US because I simply do not trust the info given out by this White House and its media.

If you have to ask a Freeper why Russia is bad, you’re not worthy of a response. TBH


46 posted on 11/08/2022 12:47:01 PM PST by tsowellfan
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To: Kazan
- NASAMS have inferior spects compared to Ukraine’s dwindling supply of S-300s

LOL now you're hallucinating

put down the vodka bottle


47 posted on 11/08/2022 12:50:50 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: tsowellfan

“Russia is bad”

Yep, there is a ‘Russia is bad’ KoolAid flavor out too.
The Left has long been asserting such, you know, since 2016.

Apparently, your are a fake Freeper who has gladly drunk from the same Leftist KoolAid.

Research?

How about research how many years the US has been at war since 1776 and get back with me.


48 posted on 11/08/2022 12:51:28 PM PST by cranked
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To: cranked

and in how many of those wars did the US try to wipe a country off the map or try to annex its territory?

like Russia is doing now?


49 posted on 11/08/2022 12:53:31 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: cranked

Apparently, your are a fake Freeper who has gladly drunk from the same Leftist KoolAid


But it is YOU who is parroting what AOC has been running around the country saying.

Is left now right and right is now left?


50 posted on 11/08/2022 12:55:04 PM PST by tsowellfan
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To: canuck_conservative

Your answer would be answered once you did the ‘How about research how many years the US has been at war since 1776 and get back with me’ research, resident of Canuckistan.

You how that Canuckistan war bond drive coming along?

“Canada Prepares War Bonds for Nazi-Infested Ukrainian Government”
https://orinocotribune.com/canada-prepares-war-bonds-for-nazi-infested-ukrainian-government/


51 posted on 11/08/2022 12:56:00 PM PST by cranked
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To: tsowellfan

Who parroted ‘Russia is bad’?

Yeah......


52 posted on 11/08/2022 12:57:42 PM PST by cranked
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To: hardspunned

“I’m still a little miffed about the Mexican cough but whatever.”

You’ll get over it eventually.

Russians were directly responsible for the deaths of thousands of Americans and our European allies during the Cold War. Now they’re reaping what they’ve sown.

“The greatest offensive military behemoth the world has ever seen is sitting on the Russian border, a days tank ride from Moscow, preaching regime change in Moscow.”

NATO couldn’t mount an invasion of anyone right now.

L


53 posted on 11/08/2022 12:57:45 PM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: tlozo

“Pentagon says”! Man, you’re better than that. Yes, the Ukes can be trained to drive, load and press the button. Are they using Ukrainian F-35s or just Uke pilots flying US jets. Do you really think the Russians are stupid enough to believe “Pentagon says” too? It’s kinda depressing to see just how powerful the media is.

https://youtu.be/TodNopdLiTE


54 posted on 11/08/2022 1:02:00 PM PST by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: Timber Rattler

no doubt you voted for your Fetterman and Shapiro today....
How many times did you vote?
you trolls should post on another site.


55 posted on 11/08/2022 1:07:20 PM PST by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: Lurker

“NATO couldn’t mount an invasion of anyone right now”

THAT, is Black Congressional Caucus level stupidity. Good Grief, Good Lord and Goodbye.


56 posted on 11/08/2022 1:09:13 PM PST by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: CarolinaReaganFan

Uh, no...I voted this morning for Mastriano and Oz. But thanks for asking.


57 posted on 11/08/2022 1:15:08 PM PST by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: srmanuel

—> Just a thought, who is manning these weapon systems, I

SWAG: operated by former trained military, who are now contracted.


58 posted on 11/08/2022 1:43:10 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: canuck_conservative

“ and in how many of those wars did the US try to wipe a country off the map or try to annex its territory?

like Russia is doing now”
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I’m guessing the Canadian schools are very limited in their teaching of US history. Your ignorance of that history of territorial expansion is near total. Read some history books… educate yourself. Just sayin’.


59 posted on 11/08/2022 1:44:17 PM PST by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX.)
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To: tsowellfan

—> There’s a BIG difference in sending aid and sending troops.

Articles last week said week have some troops in Ukraine


60 posted on 11/08/2022 1:44:36 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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