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Are the Unvaccinated Still a Danger to the Rest of Us?
Los Angeles Times ^ | NOV. 3, 2022 | Melissa Healy

Posted on 11/03/2022 5:29:54 PM PDT by nickcarraway

For almost two years, COVID-19 vaccine holdouts have been the objects of earnest pleading and financial inducements, of social-media shaming and truth campaigns. They’ve missed weddings, birthday celebrations and recitals, and even forfeited high-stakes athletic competitions. Until last month, they were barred from entering the United States and more than 100 other countries.

Now the unvaccinated are suddenly back in the mix. They’re dining in restaurants, rocking out at music festivals and filling the stands at sporting venues. They mingle freely in places where they used to be shunned for fear they’d seed superspreader events.

It’s as if they’re no longer hazardous to the rest of us. Or are they?

“Clearly, the unvaccinated are a threat to themselves,” said Dr. Jeffrey Shaman, an infectious disease specialist at Columbia University. As recently as August, their risk of dying of COVID-19 was six times higher than for people who were fully vaccinated and eight times higher than for people who were vaccinated and boosted, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

But, Shaman acknowledged, “the danger to the rest of us is a more debatable issue.”

The Path From Pandemic

This is the third in an occasional series of stories about the transition out of the COVID-19 pandemic and how life in the U.S. will be changed in its wake.

When public officials imposed vaccine mandates, the unvaccinated certainly appeared to pose demonstrable dangers to their communities.

State and local leaders sought not only to suppress spread of the virus, but also to prevent their healthcare systems from being overwhelmed, degrading care for all. The unvaccinated made those goals harder to achieve since they were more likely to become infected and, when they did, to require hospitalization.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: covid; covidvaccines; danger; melissahealy; ohnoes; unvaccinated; vaccine; wereallgonnadie
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To: nickcarraway

As much of a danger as they’ve ever been, which is to say, NONE.


61 posted on 11/03/2022 6:14:19 PM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: Shady
To continue my volunteer public service. I had three jabs (I will get no more) and I had horrible COVID in June.

That is consistent with the science. The Shots only work against the spike protein of the Origical virus, and Omicron has a different Spike Protein. If Fauci wan't a tool of Big Pharma, he would have told us all this.

Since You've had Covid, you are immune to Covid for a while and don't need any more shots. Fauci used to say stuff like that, but a lightbulb went off in his little weasel brain and he realized there is no money in it.

If you would have received the Bivalent shot, you probably would have gotten a Strain of Covid around Feb '23, and your reaction would have been Even Worse.

Big Pharma is going to continue to lie to us, until Dems realize they have been duped, too.

62 posted on 11/03/2022 6:14:48 PM PDT by UNGN
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To: nickcarraway

Have you ever seen so many weasel words in a “scientifically-based” article?

The lying bastards.

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63 posted on 11/03/2022 6:15:55 PM PDT by jobim
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To: nickcarraway

Yes, they are dangerous. They will receive more than their fair share of Social Security and Medicare.


64 posted on 11/03/2022 6:18:08 PM PDT by alternatives? (The only reason to have an army is to defend your borders.)
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To: nickcarraway

Totalitarians are still a danger to all of us.


65 posted on 11/03/2022 6:19:37 PM PDT by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis )
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To: Peter ODonnell

Nice!


66 posted on 11/03/2022 6:21:45 PM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deo et Vives)
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To: jobim

That article is political messaging. That is all.


67 posted on 11/03/2022 6:23:05 PM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deo et Vives)
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To: Shady

IF you run into health problems...look into PEMF...or look now...it is intwresting


68 posted on 11/03/2022 6:24:38 PM PDT by goodnesswins (The Chinese are teaching calculus to their 3rd graders while ours are trying to pick a pronoun.)
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To: nickcarraway

My daughter calls us the purebloods. When someone asks, tell them that. We’ve all had covid. 4 of us are over 68. No one has died. Those friends who did die, did not die of covid. They died with covid.


69 posted on 11/03/2022 6:26:00 PM PDT by lucky american (Progressives are attacking our rights and y'all will sit there and take it.)
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To: nickcarraway

“As recently as August, their risk of dying of COVID-19 was six times higher than for people who were fully vaccinated and eight times higher than for people who were vaccinated and boosted, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention”...said Shaman.


70 posted on 11/03/2022 6:26:53 PM PDT by goodnesswins (The Chinese are teaching calculus to their 3rd graders while ours are trying to pick a pronoun.)
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To: goodnesswins

According to the analysis of all the experts, I am already dead.

I can safely ignore them now!


71 posted on 11/03/2022 6:28:41 PM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: Fuzz
So like what? 4 billion people should be dead already from the killer vaccine?

About 2.5 Billion of the 4 billion didn't need the vaccine. They were under 50 years old and heathly.

If 0.1% (1 in 10,000) of those 2.5B had a "vacccine injury/death", that is 250,000 Young/Healthy people needlessly injured/killed. When the real numbers come out, they will be much higher than 1 in 10,000.

Its not like the vaccines actually stop people from getting Covid. Most of the 4 Billion will get Covid eventually, anyway. The healthy weren't going to be hospitalized/die. The Sooner the Healthy get/get over the disease, the faster the diesease would have gone away.

Vaccinating the healthy may have prolonged our agony.

72 posted on 11/03/2022 6:31:31 PM PDT by UNGN
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To: Fuzz
So like what? 4 billion people should be dead already from the killer vaccine?

About 2.5 Billion of the 4 billion didn't need the vaccine. They were under 50 years old and heathly.

If 0.1% (1 in 10,000) of those 2.5B had a "vacccine injury/death", that is 250,000 Young/Healthy people needlessly injured/killed. When the real numbers come out, they will be much higher than 1 in 10,000.

Its not like the vaccines actually stop people from getting Covid. Most of the 4 Billion will get Covid eventually, anyway. The healthy weren't going to be hospitalized/die. The Sooner the Healthy get/get over the disease, the faster the diesease would have gone away.

Vaccinating the healthy may have prolonged our agony.

73 posted on 11/03/2022 6:31:31 PM PDT by UNGN
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To: UNGN

I did take Plaxovid and the Wuhan Whooping Gleep was gone in 5 days. It’s all engineered.


74 posted on 11/03/2022 6:33:06 PM PDT by Shady (The #JihadJunta: "We are now a nation of Men, Not of Laws. You are not as equal as we are...")
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To: goodnesswins
"...according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention"

This message brought ot you by Pfizer.

75 posted on 11/03/2022 6:33:31 PM PDT by UNGN
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To: rellic

Do you know anyone who got vexxed that you would miss if they died?

Asking for a friend.


76 posted on 11/03/2022 6:34:00 PM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: one guy in new jersey

Yes. Many, many people.


77 posted on 11/03/2022 6:35:08 PM PDT by Fuzz
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To: roadcat

Dandelion Root Extract.

Worked for One Guy during Peak Vexx.


78 posted on 11/03/2022 6:35:34 PM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: nickcarraway
Are the Unvaccinated Still a Danger to the Rest of Us?
Only in your mind.
79 posted on 11/03/2022 6:36:22 PM PDT by lewislynn (Trump accomplished more in one term than any other President in your lifetime.)
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To: Fuzz

I think we are just getting started...the life expectancy of the US went down 3 or 4 years last year alone.


80 posted on 11/03/2022 6:36:44 PM PDT by WinstonSmith1984
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