Posted on 10/27/2022 8:15:43 AM PDT by ganeemead
Fake news and false info wrt the conflict in Ukraine is not difficult to find... The US MSM floods us with it and there is a gaggle of shills who appear to be hell bent on flooding this forum with it.
This little collection of links provides a pretty decent flavor for what is actually going on.
But widely used by Russians, so not destroyed by them.
You left out the part about the Russians and their allied militias attacking Ukraine first.
That story has been debunked. Repeating it amounts to lying.
Only among the propaganda posting cubicle dwellers sitting in Russia.
The evidence is overwhelming, and each of the pathetic Russian attempts to cover up the murders they committed has been shown to be false.
If you don't know that you are an idiot. But you aren't, you are just repeating Russian propaganda and lies.
"However, what is most surprising in the reports of the French volunteer is the fact that his experience reinforces the Russian narrative that the alleged massacre in Bucha was a false flag operation. Having worked in Bucha, Bocquet alleges that during his activities he saw Ukrainian agents pulling bodies out of trucks and laying them on the ground so that the footage taken by journalists looked like a mass massacre. Most likely, bodies were brought from other regions of Ukraine and unloaded in Bucha in order to form a scenario similar to the one of a real massacre. Bocquet also says that the volunteers were forbidden by the agents to take pictures and videos of the places, being threatened with prison in case of non-compliance.“When we entered Bucha by car, I was in the passenger seat. And as we drove through the city, I saw bodies of people on the sides of the streets, and at the same time I saw people's bodies being taken out of trucks and laid out next to the bodies lying on the ground to give the effect of mass killings (...) One of the volunteers who was at this place the day before (…) [told me that] he saw refrigerator trucks from other cities of Ukraine coming to Bucha and unloading bodies and laying them out in rows. I realized from this that they were staging mass massacres (…) We were warned that [if we took photos or videos] we would get imprisonment for ten years or more severe consequences. This ban also applied to the locals. This pressure was exerted by the military, primarily by the Azov men. Today, Europe does not understand how great the pressure is on the population of Ukraine", he states.
In fact, the report of a European volunteer who was physically in Bucha days before the alleged “massacre” is of immense value and credibility. When Russian officials express their views, the Western media claim that it is some kind of "propaganda" or "counter-information", which tends to be agreed by public opinion, as Moscow is involved in the conflict. However, this is not the case now. Boucquet is a European citizen who served in a humanitarian mission alongside Ukrainian forces, so he has no reason to spread "propaganda" in favor of Moscow.
This testimony is concrete evidence of the only possible conclusion regarding the investigations of Bucha: there was no massacre in the region, but the allocation in the same place of bodies from different areas. What appears to have happened was a false flag operation to move global public opinion against Russia - and if Western investigators analyze the case honestly and impartially, they will come to the same conclusion."
Are you really that stupid?
Did you notice that Lucas Leiroz is actually a "Brazilian journalist working for Russian and Chinese media" according to his Twitter bio? So you are quoting from a Russian media source.
Leiroz writes that "4 years ago I got married in the Russian Orthodox Church" and supports Russia and Iran in his posts.
Leiroz also lists "New Resistance" as one of his employers. Here is their description of themselves
"NR is a political organization, with a national-revolutionary orientation, that defends a broad resistance to the neoliberal and globalist agenda in Brazil."
It is clearly a communist inspired group with direct ties to Russia.
You need a remedial course in posting propaganda. You aren't even a D- student.
Bulls***.
You conveniently leave out the Nazi aspect. I know the truth, I studied up on the Soros color revolution in 2014, the Bandera followers, and all the rest.
WOW. You can read. Didn't know that!
I can read, too. I read where...
-Ukraine is winning the war (after losing 20% of its territory)
-Putin was dying of cancer (maybe that's his ghost running things)
-The Ukes are killing a Russian general every week
-The Ukes are launching a massive push to take back Kherson (except there are no signs)
-Iraq is full of WMDs
-No one was left behind in Afganastan
-Take the vax and you WILL NOT get COVID
-All we need is two weeks to flatten the curve
You get the picture. I can post more of the lies if you want.
By the way, reading is step one. Step two is to understand you are being lied to. You need to learn about step two.
Lie to me once -- shame on you. Lie to me twice -- shame on me.
Wait a minute. You are insulting everyone's intelligence with your schoolboy (or girlie) accusations!
When you post reliable sources that the Russians massacred Bucha civilians, I'll be happy to reply to you outlandish claim.
You probably believe in the tooth fairy and the easter bunny, too. Right?
Now, that's real funny Are you with CNN? Way to go -- just make crap up. Show me on a map from 3/1/22 to 10/28/22 how that is. Show us proof your claim is true and not a bald-faced lie.
You wrote "Russia is now losing Kherson". That seems to be accurate, because they are withdrawing their civil operations people and their lines are moving backwards.
Wait a minute. The MSM/deep state talking point has been that the Ukes are (present tense) now launching a massive offensive and will take back Kherson. We've been hearing that hoax for well over a month now.
You know. That's what we read in the WAPO, NYT, NBC, CBS, PBS, MSNBC, CNN. That is the Ukes are taking back Kherson with a massive military advance. After a month of those lies, there is still no sign the Ukes are in control Kherson. If they are, please post reliable information they now control that city which is in Russian hands and is part of the Russian Federation.
I have better things to do. You know it happened and there are many sources and plenty of evidence. You will claim they are all fake. And then you will post some Russian government employee's blog post.
Here is a UN report. Paragraph 66 of that report says:
Many summary executions occurred in Bucha, Kyiv region. Local and international organisations and media outlets have gathered and published extensive documentation on the events in Bucha. The Commission interviewed a local official who was among the first on the scene after Russian armed forces soldiers withdrew and told the Commission that he saw eight dead bodies in the backyard of the house where the soldiers had established their base. Some of them had hands tied behind their backs and presented signs of torture. He also saw more than ten dead bodies of civilians lying on the street. In another incident, five bodies were found in a basement, with hands behind their backs and gunshot wounds. A woman confirmed that her adult son was among the five bodies.
Here is video footage of other killings
Here is more footage and analysis
Al-Jazeera's article on the massacre of civilians in Bucha
You know the Russians murdered civilians in Bucha, you just don't want to admit it because that's against the rules for Russian propaganda teams.
If you are not aware of how much of Ukraine Russian troops have been driven out of since March you are completely uninformed or lack basic mental competence. Go look for yourself and learn about what has happened in Ukraine.
Russia is losing Kherson. Pay attention and watch it happen.
Hey Mr. Genuius, I did not make that claim. You did!
Now you get to back it up with proof. That's how things work. Otherwise, all you see is a bucket of lies and propaganda -- just like your baseless claim.
ganee “Bucha was a flagrant false flag. Flechettes and other weapon artifacts indicated Ukrainian weapons and not Russian.”
The flechettes are Russian.
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