Posted on 10/27/2022 8:15:43 AM PDT by ganeemead
Fake news and false info wrt the conflict in Ukraine is not difficult to find... The US MSM floods us with it and there is a gaggle of shills who appear to be hell bent on flooding this forum with it.
This little collection of links provides a pretty decent flavor for what is actually going on.
All that needs to happen is for Putin and Wgner to go back to Russia, including leaving Crimea. One negotiation that Ukraine might consider would be to allow Russia to lease the Sevastapol (sp?) shipyards for fully inspected commercial shipping. That way Ukraine would get it’s off shore oil and gas resources back and Russia would get a warm water port.
Do they live in Donetsk, Luhansk or Crimea?
I’ll try to send you some by this weekend.
“Some thoughtful text has merit. My personal screening method is . . . if the text at any point starts talking about who is evil and who is not, there won’t be much of value in that data.”
Yep - that’s a great smell test.
And you know that how?
You seem to be quite naive, or you are Joe Biden or work for CNN.
I've never seen you post "it's the US side" to any of the propaganda we hear every day here. That is when we see posts that claim....
-Ukraine is winning the war
-Putin is dying of cancer
-Russia is bombing its own nuclear power plant
-Russia blew up its own gas pipeline
-Ukraine kills a general a week stories
Why not point out the fallacy of that propaganda, too?
Where did I distinguish. You are getting worked up over something I never said.
Time a breath.
So, you believe that Ukraine is winning the war while losing 20% of its country. And, you believe the Ukraine offensive surge has driven Russia out to Kherson?
Please post the stories that prove those two are incorrect 'cause I sure don't see that on this map...
https://liveuamap.com/
I’ve been getting updates from my friend who lives in Kyiv.
Okay, Mr. Smart Guy. Why don't you tell me what happened in Bucha and also post your evidence that it is correct?
Bucha was a flagrant false flag. Flechettes and other weapon artifacts indicated Ukrainian weapons and not Russian.
How is Russia winning the war if they have less territory under their control than they did in March? Is losing territory and getting thousands of their soldiers killed the Russian definition of winning?
You wrote "Russia is now losing Kherson". That seems to be accurate, because they are withdrawing their civil operations people and their lines are moving backwards.
Why not?
Russian soldiers massacred civilians in Bucha. That is what happened. There is overwhelming evidence, including videos taken at the time that show the killings.
But why can't you answer my question. Did the Russian soldiers kill civilians in Bucha? It is a yes or no question.
Will check them out. I read several Telegram channels.
Plus no doubt a goodly percentage of the billions sent to Ukraine manages to make its way into into the Bitem gang’s pockets.
Russian soldiers did not massacre civilians in Buch. I read actual news.
Were your friends and family okay with the Ukrainian military waging war on the Russian speaking eastern part of the country since 2014? That was okay with them?
On Telegram:
https://t.me/s/loordofwar [not just Ukraine/RU]
https://t.me/s/azmilitary11/
https://t.me/s/intelslava
https://t.me/s/no_one_is_forgotten
https://t.me/s/sputnik
https://t.me/s/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses
https://t.me/s/TheEternalUkrainian2/
https://t.me/s/asbmil
https://t.me/s/militarywave
[other news as well]
https://t.me/s/southfronteng
https://t.me/s/DonbassDevushka/22253
https://t.me/s/MFARussia
https://t.me/s/war_subtitled_en
https://t.me/s/Slavyangrad
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