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The US has substantial strategic interests in Taiwan.

The US has no interests whatsoever in Ukraine.

Those who advocate support for Ukraine, that weakens our position in the Pacific, are ultimately working against US interests.

1 posted on 10/23/2022 9:21:31 AM PDT by Mariner
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To: Mariner

How about Taiwan defends Taiwan.


2 posted on 10/23/2022 9:22:40 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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Another important fact about the national security situation.


3 posted on 10/23/2022 9:23:42 AM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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“The Ukraine war ‘bubble’ is deflating as the U.S. and Europe reach the bottom of the arms ‘inventory barrel’.”
https://strategic-culture.org/news/2022/10/17/leviathan-super-cycle-ends-western-leaders-pretend-they-didnt-notice/

“The U.S. and Europe are running out of weapons to send to Ukraine”
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/28/the-us-and-europe-are-running-out-of-weapons-to-send-to-ukraine.html

‘US Army exhausts its ability to supply ammunition to Ukraine’
https://www.archyde.com/us-army-exhausts-its-ability-to-supply-ammunition-to-ukraine/

‘US ammunition supplies dwindle as Ukraine war drains stockpiles’
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-10-08/us-running-out-of-ammunitions-to-send-to-ukraine-war/101515370

“The US military needs a lot more artillery shells, rockets, and missiles for the next war”
https://taskandpurpose.com/news/military-artillery-shells-rockets-missiles-war-russia-china/

‘US Ammunition Running Low for Ukraine, No Quick Fix for Shortage’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3Vt7fmaGns


4 posted on 10/23/2022 9:23:53 AM PDT by cranked
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Gone are the days when the US could trun out a B-24 every 24 hours, How ridiculous was American production in World War 2? [images at link]

This is Willow Run. It was a B-24 plant built by Ford to mass produce the bomber. It ran its line 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and produced a complete B-24 every 63 minutes on average. At peak, it produced 100 bombers in just two days.

America had 18 dry docks building Liberty Ships during WW2. Whereas typically riveted ships of the day took months to build, the Liberty Ships went from nothing to ready to launch in an average of 42 days in those dry docks. They were welded instead of riveted, and only built for a 5-year life span. Forty-two days doesn’t seem very fast? Well I did say that was an average. The first Liberty ship took 230 days to complete. The fastest built ship took less than five days. That is a 14,000 ton ship from laying the keel to launch in less than five days. We built 2,710 of these ships during the war.

Between the nine plants, 49,234 Sherman tanks were built during the war, accounting for about half of the tanks the US produced during the war. Yeah, half again. -Quora ^ | 2019 | Chris Morehouse

Thank God for those who served, and for those who enabled such production for the purpose of fighting evil empires. Yet now the Navy knows how to marry men with men, and thinks it is wise to have men and women work (etc.) together on subs, and all overall the military is committed to helping the enemies within, saluting the Leftist politically correct flag. On her present course of war against God, the day will come when it is said, "How are the mighty fallen, and the weapons of war perished!" (2 Samuel 1:27)

How are the mighty fallen, and the weapons of war perished! (2 Samuel 1:27)

5 posted on 10/23/2022 9:26:37 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him who saves, be baptized + follow Him!)
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This concern I agree with. We should have cut our ruinous social spending and built a stronger military starting decades ago.

A real war is coming but that doesn’t mean it helps to lose Europe.

Europe and Asia must both step up as allies.


6 posted on 10/23/2022 9:28:53 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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My guess is the Biden administration has put no priority whatsoever into weapons production, and there’s going to be a severe shortfall,” added Fleitz, a former CIA analyst. “It’s a dangerous situation.”

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I keep saying

Josef has a made in
Communist China
White flag
of unconditional surrender
in his back pocket
That’s his end goal.


7 posted on 10/23/2022 9:30:36 AM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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Except the same people here who say we have no interests in Ukraine, also say we should not fight over Taiwan.

The “We’re all going to die chorus” is defeatist.


8 posted on 10/23/2022 9:30:51 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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Biden weapons supply

Over there no over here no wait JILL


9 posted on 10/23/2022 9:31:47 AM PDT by Vaduz (LAWYERS )
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The moment China feels threatened by the US using Taiwan as a launching pad for weapons aimed at them it will suffer the exact same fate as Ukraine.


10 posted on 10/23/2022 9:31:59 AM PDT by Chunga85 (An arrogant govt combined with an ignorant population is a recipe for disaster.)
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That’s been my big concern. That’s probably what Sir Fills his drawers wants to do. Weaken us for his commie pals.


11 posted on 10/23/2022 9:33:29 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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"My guess is the Biden administration has put no priority whatsoever into weapons production, and there's going to be a severe shortfall,"

Does he read the news:U.S. industry cranks up HIMARS production as Ukraine war intensifies

In anticipation of the requests, the company invested $65 million about six months ago to shorten the manufacturing time for HIMARS before receiving a contract from the Pentagon, Taiclet said.

Lockheed Martin is also considering expanding its facility in Camden, Ark., as demand continues to grow, he added.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/10/18/himars-production-war-ukraine-00062301

12 posted on 10/23/2022 9:33:56 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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The US has substantial strategic interests in Taiwan. The US has no interests whatsoever in Ukraine

Correct. I prefer the term strategic dependency to strategic interest. Before Trump we had a strategic dependency on Middle East oil. Now we are back to the same dependency under Biden. Our dependency on Taiwan is primarily semiconductors, chips, and computer components. That’s really pathetic because America invented those things, we just don’t like making those things.

There’s a way to strength and peace. The world needs to be dependent on American technology, manufacturing, energy and agriculture; not our weapons. That’s not isolationism, quite the opposite. We would just be flipping the tables in global transactions. While we are at it, we should keep our weapons. There is zero need for any other nation to have our weapon technology.

13 posted on 10/23/2022 9:35:04 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA ( Scratch a leftist and you'll find a fascist )
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It’s all business deals for the Bidens. Ukraine and China have given the Bidens millions. Taiwan should have “contributed “.


14 posted on 10/23/2022 9:35:57 AM PDT by TopDog2 (Onward Christian soldiers)
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I’m sure Biden will have more than enough weapons available to use against conservatives if his twisted mind decides on it.


15 posted on 10/23/2022 9:38:05 AM PDT by CatOwner (Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021 and beyond.)
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Agreed.

See my tagline.


16 posted on 10/23/2022 9:39:11 AM PDT by rlmorel (Nolnah's Razor: Never attribute to incompetence that which is adequately explained by malice.)
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This is a ridiculous theory.

The stuff being used in Europe has come out of the inventory designated for Europe. It was made to be used on the Russians.

If the Taiwanese are in need of HIMARS and Javelins, their war would be over.

You use different tools for different jobs.

I wish “journalists” would take five minutes to understand how the world works.


18 posted on 10/23/2022 9:40:48 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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try to imagine a war to defend Taiwan.

if you’re brain didn’t immediately realize we’d be defending it against CHINA... the country who received our entire manufacturing base... then you’ve got a problem.

if you didn’t realize one second later that we couldn’t make cotton masks 2 yrs ago and would probably have significant issues supplying a war effort against them... then you’re just not paying attention.


22 posted on 10/23/2022 9:48:32 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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What would George Washington do ?


24 posted on 10/23/2022 9:54:34 AM PDT by escapefromboston (Free Chauvin)
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Hey Experts! Biden is on China’s Payroll.


25 posted on 10/23/2022 9:55:55 AM PDT by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell.)
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Complete and utter LIES.

Only a small percentage of the US weapon arsenal has been given to Ukraine.

Furthermore, companies are increasing production.

Stop with this Putinist doggerel.


33 posted on 10/23/2022 10:03:01 AM PDT by Vaden (Real conservatives will not allow our wagon to be hitched to fascist Russia)
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