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U.S. sees no evidence Russia is interested in ending Ukraine aggression - Blinken
Reuters ^ | October 21, 2022 | Humeyra Pamuk, Arshad Mohammed and Simon Lewis

Posted on 10/21/2022 1:25:41 PM PDT by Timber Rattler

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To: Timber Rattler

And Russia still ain’t gone nowhere......


41 posted on 10/21/2022 2:43:13 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Timber Rattler

The denazification and demilitarization of Ukraine continues onward....


42 posted on 10/21/2022 2:44:47 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Timber Rattler

It’s a two-way street.

Anyone trusting our Government/Deep State is not thinking.


43 posted on 10/21/2022 2:47:23 PM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: Timber Rattler

‘The Ukrainians are in a lot of trouble’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSQft5SK1gs


44 posted on 10/21/2022 3:01:36 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Timber Rattler

Well that’s good news for the election. If Biden could pull a peace deal out of his derrière that could be the October surprise we are fearing. The only way I see that happening is the Ukraine would have to cede some of the disputed territories which would be a betrayal by Biden if that happened.


45 posted on 10/21/2022 3:39:47 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Kazan

https://mid.ru/ru/foreign_policy/rso/nato/1790803/?lang=en

Those terms, eh? This is the direct link to the verbatim draft agreement offered by The Kremlin. No Propaganda, no middle men, no edits. Just the facts.

Russia’s terms in summary... Roll back NATO to status quo ante per 1997 (meaning what - expel members that have done nothing wrong and don’t have weapons that threaten Russia and have done nothing that threatens Russia?), terminate all accessions in progress (eg Bosnia?), remove all defensive capabilities from all of eastern Europe, stop doing training in eastern Europe, stop doing military exercises anywhere Russia decides it doesn’t like...

Open ended demands.

The quid pro quo? None. No meaningful concessions from Russia. It can do exercises anywhere. It can invade any country if it’s “necessary”.

The whole thing is a manifesto for “leave eastern Europe defenceless and do nothing when we invade it.”

Unacceptable.

Even one of their own diplomats in March/April was so gobsmacked at the insanity of such obviously unacceptable demands he quit his job and fled Russia. He now lives in Israel.

He has said the terms came directly from the Kremlin and as such are utterly beyond criticism. They presented terms that they all knew would be rejected because they were so outrageous.

Look, when even the Russian negotiating team itself can’t defend the terms they had to present, when they say if they’d been on NATO side of the table they wouldn’t have accepted those terms either, Russia must’ve known those terms were unacceptable to NATO.


46 posted on 10/21/2022 3:39:55 PM PDT by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe". https://www.thefabulous.co/s/2uHEJdj)
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To: EnderWiggin1970

In the first 20 years... Russia invaded Chechnya twice, then Georgia. A visiting dign

Zhirinovsky and Putin both wrote big essays on how butt-hurt they were over losing the Soviet empire. Both said none of the Eastern bloc countries were real countries. Both made it abundantly clear that they had a vision of Russia taking those lands back.

President Kaczyński of Poland warned that Russia was going for it.... “Today Georgia, tomorrow Ukraine, the day after tomorrow – the Baltic States and later, perhaps, time will come for my country, Poland,” the President proclaimed... In August 2008.

Was he wrong?

Because Lukashenko and Rossiya1 maps shown on national television broadcasts this spring suggest not.


47 posted on 10/21/2022 3:53:51 PM PDT by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe". https://www.thefabulous.co/s/2uHEJdj)
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To: laplata
From what you’ve gathered?


48 posted on 10/21/2022 4:12:10 PM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: Timber Rattler

I never believe Blinken. It is shameful that you do. Shilling for the Biden regime, disgusting.


49 posted on 10/21/2022 4:15:28 PM PDT by dforest
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To: dforest

Shilling for Comrade Putin and a Soviet restoration is what is shameful, Comrade.


50 posted on 10/21/2022 4:17:47 PM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Timber Rattler; cranked

I can’t see where he called Lavrov a hero. I did see where he insinuated that the feeling looks to be mutual.


51 posted on 10/21/2022 4:18:36 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Timber Rattler

I don’t see where I was shilling for Putin. I however do see you shilling for Blinken and the regime.


52 posted on 10/21/2022 4:21:07 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Timber Rattler

If it would not be for the US most Ukrainians still would have a roof over their heads. Probably the eastern portion of the Ukraine which has a large portion of ethnic Russians and was constantly assaulted by radical groups would have been annexed by Russia and things eventually would have settled down. The same goes for Europe if they had not jumped on the US bandwagon. The US purposely damaged the gas supply lines making sure that Europe in general and Germany in particular remains dependent on the US like a colony, just in case they may come to their senses and change their mind.

Those days when Russia had any ideas of expansion are long gone and over with and things of the past. All they want is a quiet neighborhood without NATO or CIA manipulation and intervention. Just like the US likes to keep their backyard free of any intruders. But the warmongers within the US regime know that a peaceful coexistence is bad for the production of war materials, especially the military industrial complex as well as the globalists, cranking out wartime supplies like there is no tomorrow and if they keep it up there may not be one. So, they keep stirring the pot until it will boil over and it isn’t too far from doing just that.


53 posted on 10/21/2022 4:22:39 PM PDT by Saintgermain
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To: delta7
"The corrupted little beggar Zelensky has no interest in Peace unless Biden and the West allows him."

Zelenskyy counts on aggression on both sides continuing, so he can keep getting cash from U.S. taxpayers, and Biden and the rest of the scumbags on both sides of the aisle, rely on being able to continue laundering money in Ukraine.

54 posted on 10/21/2022 5:40:22 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: elpadre

You’re right - why would Putin talk with braindead Biden about anything regarding this war since this isn’t our conflict - right? and it’s Not Nato’s conflict either - so we are told.

The insanity on the world stage today is beyond incomptent for leaders across the board.


55 posted on 10/21/2022 5:48:21 PM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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To: Timber Rattler

Projection probably.


56 posted on 10/21/2022 5:52:30 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: Chunga85
"A lot of Americans don’t know this, but Ukraine is right on Russia’s border."

Well then, Russia had a right to invade Ukraine, and kill, rape, torture and enslave the Ukrainians and grab all of their land. Besides, the Ukrainians were beginning to escape from Soviet culture! Think about it--Mexico and Canada are right on our borders!

57 posted on 10/21/2022 5:53:19 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: familyop

“Think about it—Mexico and Canada are right on our borders!”

Right. And Mexico and Canada are *not* playing host as launching pads for Russian weapons aimed at the US. Most Americans fail to make this distinction. It’s too hard.


58 posted on 10/21/2022 5:57:17 PM PDT by Chunga85 (An arrogant govt combined with an ignorant population is a recipe for disaster.)
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To: Magnum44

Lol


59 posted on 10/21/2022 6:04:18 PM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: caww

I don’t see that the USor the client state Ukraine have any intent to end the violence either.


60 posted on 10/21/2022 6:07:51 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Genocide is here. Leftist extremists are spearhheading the Genocide against conservatives. )
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