[SmokingJoe]

That's a lie.

Of course its true.
There are at least 50 wars Ukraine fought between 800s-1349. long before America was even founded
Have a look at this:

List of wars involving Ukraine

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Ukraine

Regardless of “corrupt”, Zelensky never threatened or invaded Russia, and that's what matters.

Its not our business to shovel out tens of billions of dollars that we don't have (by borrowing yet again) to tin pot, corrupt dictators like Zelensky, while abandoning our own borders and letting in huge quantities of Fentanyl which is currently the number one killer of our youth. That $70 Billion Biden is whovelling to Ukraine would easily complete our southern Mexican boder walls and secure it for generations.
Let Ukraine and Europe take care of their own problems for a change.

[KC Burke]

Poster "oblomov" had one of the most concise observations about the whole thing:

The Ukraine war is a proxy war between two factions of the left. The old anti-authoritarian left has been marginalized, and they aren’t one of the warring factions. It’s between the nationalist neo-Stalinist left and transnational corporatist progressivism.

Other than the sensible abhorrence of war, we have no dog in this fight.

[BroJoeK]

SmokingJoe: "There are at least 50 wars Ukraine fought between 800s-1349. long before America was even founded"

I'll grant you "50 wars", but few if any of those were Ukrainians fighting against Russians.
And the last of those wars came in 1775 wherein Ukraine was defeated and became part of the Russian empire, where it remained until, briefly, during the 1917-1921 war for independence, aka Russian Civil War.

SmokingJoe: "Its not our business to shovel out tens of billions of dollars that we don't have (by borrowing yet again) to tin pot, corrupt dictators like Zelensky... "

Since 1991 Ukraine has held seven presidential elections.

Year -- Elected -- ....Party
1. 1991 -- Kravchuk -- Independent
2. 1994 -- Kuchmar -- Independent
3. 1999 -- Kuchmar -- Independent
4. 2004 -- Yushchenko -- Independent
5. 2010 -- Yanbukovych -- Party of the Regions
6. 2014 -- Poroshenko -- Independent
7. 2019 -- Zelensky -- Servant of the People

Since the year 2000 Valdimir Putin or his stand-in was "elected" five times with no serious opposition.

SmokingJoe: "...while abandoning our own borders and letting in huge quantities of Fentanyl which is currently the number one killer of our youth.
That $70 Billion Biden is whovelling to Ukraine would easily complete our southern Mexican boder walls and secure it for generations."

The US has more than enough money to pay for a robust national defense, including our borders, which is exactly why Democrats are desperate to squander as many trillions of dollars as they possibly can on insane vote-buying schemes.

National defense is not Democrats' first priority, weakened Americans requiring ever stronger central government -- that is their first priority.

So National Defense is a matter of our priorities, not money.

SmokingJoe: "Let Ukraine and Europe take care of their own problems for a change."

Right, of course... just like Neville Chamberlain at Munich in 1938, you want "peace in our time", why threaten war with a dangerous dictator (Hitler) over a small country many had never heard of and even fewer cared about (Czechoslovakia).

So, Chamberlain gave Hitler what he wanted and achieved "peace in our time".
His peace lasted less than one year.
WWII killed around 35 million in Europe alone, circa 75 million world-wide.

That is the lesson history teaches.
Learn it or die.