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To: SmokingJoe
SmokingJoe: "We are not letting Russia “run roughshod” over anybody.
Russia and Ukraine have been fighting wars long before America existed."

That's a lie.
Russians have always tried, and usually succeeded, to conquer, rule, oppress and/or exterminate Ukrainians.
Whenever possible, Ukrainians have fought for their independence.
In 1991 Russia recognized Ukrainian independence and borders, including Crimea.

Now, true to form, madman Putin wants to again conquer & exterminate as much of Ukraine as he can.
Putin's success or failure will help determine how many other two-bit tin-pot dictators act out their own fantasies of conquest & rule.

Every time we lose it makes the next battle that much harder to win -- basic lesson of history.

SmokingJoe: "The corrupt, sleazy Zelensky should take care of his own mess without draging us into it."

Regardless of "corrupt", Zelensky never threatened or invaded Russia, and that's what matters.
If madman Putin's naked aggression succeeds in Ukraine, expect lots more of it from Putin and other two-bit tin-pot dictators around the world.

Every defeat makes the next one that much more difficult & costly to win.

Learn the lessons of history or die.

119 posted on 10/22/2022 5:46:22 AM PDT by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: BroJoeK
That's a lie.

Of course its true.
There are at least 50 wars Ukraine fought between 800s-1349. long before America was even founded
Have a look at this:

List of wars involving Ukraine

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Ukraine

Regardless of “corrupt”, Zelensky never threatened or invaded Russia, and that's what matters.

Its not our business to shovel out tens of billions of dollars that we don't have (by borrowing yet again) to tin pot, corrupt dictators like Zelensky, while abandoning our own borders and letting in huge quantities of Fentanyl which is currently the number one killer of our youth. That $70 Billion Biden is whovelling to Ukraine would easily complete our southern Mexican boder walls and secure it for generations.
Let Ukraine and Europe take care of their own problems for a change.

121 posted on 10/22/2022 6:12:11 AM PDT by SmokingJoe ( )
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