DesertRhino:
"(1) Uke militias and Uke army were already massing for a massive assault on the Donbass, (2) NATO was extending an invitation, (3) the Ukes were prepping to go nuclear and (4) to also attack Crimea." Those are complete lies, because:
- 1) Why would Ukraine stage a "massive assault" on itself?
- 2) Ukraine first applied for NATO membership in 2008, NATO's response was: first do Membership Action Plan, then we'll talk.
- 3) There's no evidence of Ukrainian nukes -- just the opposite, Ukraine gave up its stockpile of nukes in exchange for Russia's worthless promise not to invade!!
- 4) Again, why would Ukrainians attack themselves in Crimea, it makes no sense, must be a total Russian propaganda lie.
DesertRhino:
"So his [Putin's!] choice was do nothing and globalists win.
Or fight and globalists still do ok, but at least he has kept them away.
He [Putin!!!] learned the lesson of Munich and knew the expansionist dictatorship could not be stopped by appeasement." Still more lying propaganda -- worthy of a Goebbels or Hillary Clinton (but I repeat myself).
You turn the reality of an unprovoked Russian invasion of Ukraine into a justified defensive response by Russia to Ukrainian "aggression".
In your delusional world it's Russia playing the role of peace-seeking Chamberlain at Munich, and Ukrainians who are unjustly threatening to invade their neighbors.
Just goes to prove that not all the American delusional insanity is among Democrats.
But... maybe I'm assuming to much here? ![]()
Yeah, you are assuming too much. Try to keep up.
Each thing I said is documented and I don’t care too much about changing your backwards mind, but no, they wouldn’t be invading themselves. They had been shelling the Donbass areas for 8 years and were massing forces to assault them and reconquer them. They had opted out of the 2014 coup and have been under ethnic cleansing and nazi artillery attacks since that time.
And yes, in April of 2021 Zelinsky announced they were exploring getting nukes.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/4/16/ukraine-may-seek-nuclear-weapons-if-left-out-of-nato-diplomat
They announced they intended to attack Crimea, and we and the Brits sailed warships 3 miles off of Sevastopol claiming Ukraine gave us permission.
Last fall when Putin we pushing hard for negotiations, the centerpiece was the implementation of Minsk II, and an assurance that Ukraine was not going to be admitted to NATO. Blinken responded the intent was to support ukraine militarily and that the NATO door was open.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60145159
And no, the Munich analogy was DC and the EU as the aggressive expansionist empire. The Ukes are just useful idiot pawns. Put learned the lesson of Munch that you cannot appease such people and knew it was true with is after all the appeasing he tried with us. So he chose the military option.
You’re living in the past.