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"The lieutenant colonel said that Allah is a coward." Religious conflict could be the reason for the shooting at the training ground in Belgorod - Astra
The Insider ^ | 16 October 2022 08:06 | The Insider

Posted on 10/16/2022 3:07:57 PM PDT by Zhang Fei

One of those present at the training ground in Belgorod during the execution by some mobilized others told the Astra Telegram channel that the cause of the conflict could be religious - shortly before the incident, Lieutenant Colonel Andrey Lapin said that Allah is a coward, since he does not allow Muslims to fight for a country where you took an oath. The authors of the material emphasize that at the time of publication they were unable to independently confirm the identity of either the narrator himself or the identity of other persons appearing in the story.

“It all started with the fact that some of our soldiers, a Dagestani, an Azerbaijani and an Adyghe, said that “this is not our war” and tried to write a report that they did not want to serve anymore. Lieutenant Colonel Andrei Lapin, when he learned this through the company commander, gathered everyone and began to say that “this is a holy war,” says the narrator, whose name is not called for his safety.

According to the interlocutor, hearing about the "holy war" Muslims were indignant, since this concept "means a war of Muslims with infidels." Then Lapin called Allah a coward. This was the main reason for the further conflict, the narrator says, many were taken aback when they heard such a statement from the lieutenant colonel.

Within an hour and a half, everyone was sent to the shooting range, three natives of Tajikistan deployed their machine guns and shot Lapin, who died on the spot. They then opened fire indiscriminately. According to the narrator, he saw 30 dead, including Lapin. Two shooters were also killed, the third managed to escape. The military man also calls their names - Bikzot, Anush, and junior sergeant Ami. The last one managed to escape.

The military also notes that those who opened fire were ardent supporters of their faith and repeatedly cursed with the command for not being allowed to pray on time and for not being allocated a prayer room.


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To: moovova

Yang Kyoungjong could tell them a thing or two.


21 posted on 10/16/2022 5:44:53 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim ( )
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To: Zhang Fei

Much of Imperial Russia’s expansion was into Muslim lands, including Crimea and southern Ukraine, the southern Caucuses and central Asia. Religion was largely suppressed by the Soviets. But, with the revival of a state religion (Russian Orthodox Christianity) under Putin, there can be tensions.


22 posted on 10/16/2022 5:47:10 PM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: Zhang Fei

Where do they think they are, Shitcago?!!!


23 posted on 10/16/2022 5:53:22 PM PDT by wetgundog
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To: MeganC
Allah be praised! Lol!!

Judging by your faith, you may end up in the same place as the coward Mohammed
24 posted on 10/16/2022 6:06:17 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Zhang Fei; moovova; familyop; dennisw; Redmen4ever; PIF; rrrod; popdonnelly; ought-six; ...

There was one comment here about China urging their people to leave Ukraine and come home. That was one article I saw today. THen I saw another article where China was urging their citizens to come home from Ukraine, Tajikastan, and Kazakhstan. Do the Chinese know something about Russian plans that we do not? The Ukraine part I could imagine might involve tactical nukes. What might the other 2 countries mean?

China also has a Muslim problem with its Uigers.


25 posted on 10/17/2022 1:31:42 AM PDT by gleeaikin (Question authority! .)
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To: Zhang Fei

Allah is not a coward, he just never existed. A complete fabrication from corrupt mind of a Lunatic murdering pedophile named Muhammad


26 posted on 10/17/2022 8:19:07 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: gleeaikin

“THen I saw another article where China was urging their citizens to come home from Ukraine, Tajikastan, and Kazakhstan. Do the Chinese know something about Russian plans that we do not? The Ukraine part I could imagine might involve tactical nukes. What might the other 2 countries mean?”

Kazakhstan is an independent and sovereign nation about 3x the size of Ukraine, and shares a border with China as well as with Russia. As in Ukraine with the Holodomor of the 1930s, Kazakstan also suffered a similar fate in the 1930s.

Kazakhstan has a population of about 18 - 19 million (or, 7 people per square kilometer). For a comparison, Kazakhstan is about 2/3 the size of the US lower 48; but has the combined population of Michigan and Virginia.

There are between 3 and 4 million ethnic Russians in Kazakhstan (note: the Russian Baikonur Cosmodrome is in Kazakhstan); or, just under 20% of the total population.

Kazakhstan has refused to support Russia in its invasion of Ukraine, nor has it recognized the self-proclaimed republics in Ukraine’s Donbas region and has not recognized their annexation by Russia.

Kazakhstan has close ties with China.

The concern is that Russia may fear losing its interests in Kazakhstan — including the Baikonur Cosmodrome — and make some kind of move against Kazakhstan.

Tajikistan is much smaller, but also shares a border with China (but does not share a border with Russia). With a population of around 10 million, it is far more densely populated than Kazakhstan. Tajikistan has a lot of natural resources. Its relations with Russia are “cordial.” However, ethnic Russians make up only a tiny fraction of the population (less than 6,000; or, less than 1%). It is 98% moslem.

However, with the recent Russian training camp incident in Russia where it is alleged that some Tajik volunteers opened fire on Russian officers and troops, apparently over some anti-moslem slur by a Russian officer, what was once “cordial” may become something less.

The ‘stans are becoming volatile.


27 posted on 10/17/2022 9:36:04 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six
Kazakhstan has close ties with China.

Just last month, Xi essentially declared Kazakhstan to be under China's protection.

"No matter how the international situation changes, we will continue to resolutely support Kazakhstan in protecting its independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity," Mr Xi said during a meeting with President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev, according to a Kazakh government statement.

Geographically, Kazakhstan essentially divides the rest of Central Asia from Russia.

28 posted on 10/17/2022 1:55:09 PM PDT by ETCM (“There is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.” — Ronald Reagan)
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To: ETCM

“Geographically, Kazakhstan essentially divides the rest of Central Asia from Russia.”

Yes, it does. And it sees China as the future, and Russia as the past.


29 posted on 10/17/2022 2:03:33 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six; All

It probably did not help that Tajikistan’s long time ruler gave Putin a 7 minute dressing down about neglecting material support for his country. I think the article I saw spoke of Putin sitting slumped with his head down and just taking it. I looked closely ate his face and while he looked humble and contrite, I thought I saw a gleam in his eye that said to me, “Just you wait, buddy.”


30 posted on 10/18/2022 5:34:00 PM PDT by gleeaikin (Question authority! .)
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