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THERE IS NO SINGLE WAR IN UKRAINE AND NATO IS IN TROUBLE
Sonar 21 ^ | 11 October 2022 | Larry Johnson

Posted on 10/12/2022 8:40:29 AM PDT by Kazan

Not to beat a dead horse, but most of the world has a delusional image in their head of the war in Ukraine. As I have written previously, much of the fault lies with Hollywood, which through a plethora of movies has conditioned the masses to think of war as the conquest of critical territory. But that is a misleading image when it comes to Ukraine. Yes, there are strategically important pieces of territory that must be captured or defended, but there also are vast swaths of plains (we call them prairies here in the United States) that are tactically difficult to control and, if you succeed in capturing an area of land, you create a problem of how to defend it.

Please take a look at the following video with this in mind. Although the video shows how Russia’s Wagner Group is building defensive lines, please focus on the general landscape rather than the work of the engineers: (video at link)

Russia has a decisive advantage over Ukraine when it comes to battling for this territory, even though it ceded some of it a few weeks ago to advancing Ukrainian troops. Why? Because Russia’s air force is still intact and can be used to attack massed Ukrainian units. Ukraine’s air capability has been eviscerated. Russia also enjoys a lopsided advantage in tanks. In case you have any doubts, the video above shows quintessential tank country.

At the beginning of its full-scale invasion in Feb., Russia had around 3,330 operational tanks (2,840 with the ground forces, 330 with its naval infantry, and 160 with its airborne forces), according to the Military Balance 2021 database. . . .

However, Russia still has some 2,000 battle-ready tanks at hand, as well as an enormous amount in storage.

The Military Balance 2021 database says Russian storage facilities have around 10,200 tanks, including various T-72s, 3,000 T-80s, and 200 T-90s.

https://ukrainetoday.org/2022/09/01/how-many-tanks-does-russia-really-have/

Tank battles on rolling plains is great grist for a Hollywood blockbuster, but the real peril for Ukraine has been on display over the last two days–Russia’s hypersonic missiles, cruise missiles and air launched rockets mangling power nodes and military headquarters throughout Ukraine. The Russian strikes in the last two days significantly degraded Ukraine’s ability to supply electricity and critical heat to its major cities. The attacks also are disrupting Ukraine’s cell phone network and its ability to move troops and equipment from the west to the frontlines in the east.

Ukraine does not have a comparable capability to counter the Russian attacks. Moreover, the Russian missile barrage has highlighter the weakness, if not absence, of Ukraine’s anti-missile defense system. It is neither a mistake nor a coincidence that Russia’s strikes in major Ukrainian cities–more than 100 missiles– caused very few human casualties, especially on the civilian side of the ledger. Despite Ukrainian claims that Russia’s strikes killed civilians, the evidence suggests otherwise–Ukraine’s own anti-missile system failed to intercept the Russian targets and then fell to earth and hit apartments and schools.

What is the United States and NATO going to do? Immediately deploy the Iron Dome anti-missile system? Unfortunately, these Western anti-missile systems are not designed to defeat the missiles Russia is launching. Then there is the logistics problem–i.e., getting those systems deployed and training personnel to operate them. This will take weeks, if not months. And Ukraine does not have the luxury of time in this regard. Making matters worse, the United States and NATO do not have the reserves to quickly resupply Ukraine:

The United States will soon be unable to supply Ukraine, as it has up to now, with the sophisticated equipment essential for its defense against Russia as its reserves are reaching their limits, especially in terms of ammunition. . . .

But US stockpiles of certain equipment are “reaching the minimum levels necessary for war and training plans” and getting weapons stockpiles back to pre-invasion levels could take years, Mark Cancian wrote in a recent analysis. of the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

Washington is “learning lessons” from the conflict about ammunition needs in a very powerful war, and that it is “much larger” than expected, said a US military official who requested anonymity.

https://www.archyde.com/us-army-exhausts-its-ability-to-supply-ammunition-to-ukraine/

Then there is the nightmare scenario for Ukraine and NATO of Russia invoking the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) and Russia asking Belarus to join the fray. Russian and Belarusian troops already are gathering on Ukraine’s northern border. Whether this is a bluff by Russia or genuine preparation for opening a new front in the north, the massing of forces requires Ukraine to deploy already depleted forces to the northern border. This will weaken Ukraine’s ability to hold off a Russian offensive in Kherson and Zaporhyzhia.

I believe that the events during the next five weeks will create a crisis within NATO and the United States. If Russia seizes the initiative and moves in force against Ukrainian units, NATO will not be in a position to rescue Ukraine from defeat on the battlefield. Any further intervention by NATO will make it, in the eyes of the Russians, a legitimate military target.

Compounding the military challenges confronting the United States and NATO, there are the economic and political headwinds. Joe Biden is likely to lose control of the House of Representatives and the Senate. If this happens, he will no longer have a congressional ally eager to keep shoveling money and weapons into Ukraine. The economic conditions throughout Europe of inflation and shuttering businesses will fuel more domestic unrest and diminish enthusiasm for keeping Ukraine afloat.

When you take all of these factors into consideration, the conclusion is clear–Russia enjoys a strategic and tactical initiative that will be difficult to surmount. Conversely, NATO is in trouble.


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To: Allegra

None of these people have ever seen or ever been near a war. Brave talk is always cheap. And brave talk is always directly proportional to the distance to the front.


121 posted on 10/12/2022 10:30:13 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: qaz123
So, as winter sets in and there’s no power, what are the Ukrainians going to do?

Well they already got their grid back up and running, so I imagine they'll be focused on shooting Russians.

122 posted on 10/12/2022 10:30:25 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: cranked

The constantly victorious Soviets love winning so much they want to keep defeating the Ukes for years and years to come.


123 posted on 10/12/2022 10:30:46 AM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: Boogieman

You don’t build pilots, you train them.
And there is no shortages of pilots in Russia.

Your sources for such a claim are where cause spouting BS from the top of your head amounts to talking out your arse.


124 posted on 10/12/2022 10:30:52 AM PDT by cranked
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To: cranked

“continually spouting BS”

Yes, Russian trolls have been saying this for 8 months now, yet my “BS” continues to be proven right, and their propaganda continues to be proven wrong. So sad that reality won’t conform to the dictats of your propaganda ministry. Take another shot of vodka and it will ease the pain, comrade.


125 posted on 10/12/2022 10:31:17 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Russia, Second Army of the World (TM), is now deploying WW2 antiques:

#Ukraine: The first photos of a D-1 152mm howitzer in use by Russian (LNR) forces- they were transferred to the DNR/LNR in the end of August, but photos appeared just now.
The D-1 first entered service with the Red Army in 1943.

https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1580229323516444674


126 posted on 10/12/2022 10:31:57 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: Alter Kaker

No, they have not.

Lights, electricity, heating, the Internetz, communication in general, and Starlink are out.


127 posted on 10/12/2022 10:32:08 AM PDT by cranked
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To: cranked

“You don’t build pilots, you train them.”

Exactly my point. Training takes time, time that Russia does not have.

“And there is no shortages of pilots in Russia.”

There’s most definitely a shortage of combat capable pilots in Russia, which is why they have been reduced to sending 63 year old pilots into battle.


128 posted on 10/12/2022 10:33:09 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Kazan; All

Do any of the Pro-Zelensky fan boys on here give any thought to the fact that any of these battlefield “victories” reported as ‘victories by the Ukrainian military’ could just as likely be US and NATO drones, being flown by personnel from certain government entities, to make it look like the Ukrainians are doing anything?

Ghost of Kiev....NOPE.

Snake Island....NOPE.

The 14yr old Ukrainian Drone Pilot....what happened to him?


129 posted on 10/12/2022 10:33:14 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: Boogieman

Yes, pro-Ukrainian trolls have been saying this for 8 months now, yet my “BS” continues to be proven right, and their propaganda continues to be proven wrong. So sad that reality won’t conform to the dictates of your propaganda ministry. Take another shot of latte and it will ease the pain, Banderist.

Fixed/Corrected.


130 posted on 10/12/2022 10:34:25 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Kazan
What I don't get is why so many people still believe the Western-supported Ukraine is on the verge of a victory rout. If all the Western media articles are to be believed, the Russian forces were long ago crushed and would have retreated back to Mother Russsia to lick their wounds.

This has not happened, yet the fantasy persists.

131 posted on 10/12/2022 10:34:31 AM PDT by citizen (The pResident On Hot Mic With Florida Official: ‘No One F**ks With A Biden’)
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To: Alter Kaker

Well they already got their grid back up and running, so I imagine they’ll be focused on shooting Russians.


Putinists fantasized about Europe freezing this winter. That’s not happening so now they day dream about no power in Ukraine. Putin will fail there, too, because Russia’s fake army can’t cash these checks.


132 posted on 10/12/2022 10:35:58 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: Boogieman
Russia hasn’t even been able to hold on to that “40,000 square miles”

They have held 95% of it. They have withdrawn and allowed Ukraine to take back ghost towns and rural areas while killing an estimated 20,000 Ukrainian troops in the last month.

You consider that a win?

Russia is just beginning to flood the region with an massive infusion of troops. The Russians have only used 10% of their own troops in this war to date and have been, to this point, outnumbered on the ground. That is about to change and when it does, what's left of the Ukrainian military will be wiped off the face of the earth.

Believing and repeating lies is simply resulting in massive loss of Ukrainian lives and territory and wasting US tax dollars.

Donald Trump knows all that and that he is why he has and continues to call for a negotiated end to all of this.

If you and your ilk want to oppose Trump, lay down on the tracks while Trump Train runs your ass over. This neocon nonsense must end.

133 posted on 10/12/2022 10:36:10 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Boogieman

Still waiting for the sources for your claims regarding Russia lacking pilots...........

Any time.
When?
Waiting.
Earth calling Boogieman, sources please?
Hello?!


134 posted on 10/12/2022 10:36:18 AM PDT by cranked
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To: cranked
Lights, electricity, heating, the Internetz, communication in general, and Starlink are out.

Yeah you got it. Ukraine is on its knees. They're advancing on Kherson and Donetsk so they can charge their phones. ;-)

135 posted on 10/12/2022 10:36:38 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: lodi90

“Putinists fantasized about Europe freezing this winter.”

Dude, did you really just say that BS?
Dude, its not winter yet.

LMAO, the level of idiocy these days is just off the frakin’ charts.


136 posted on 10/12/2022 10:38:06 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Alter Kaker

No they don’t, large swaths of Ukraine still suffering what I described, listening to reports vids now.


137 posted on 10/12/2022 10:39:10 AM PDT by cranked
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To: cranked; Boogieman

“When the last time you read or seen a video of Ukrainian aircraft attacking a position, cover for operations, etc.?”

FYI, the Ukrainian Air Force enjoys air superiority over Kherson, West of the Dniper River. They routinely fly 1-4 dozen combat sorties per day down there.


138 posted on 10/12/2022 10:39:58 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Cronos

Ah Ha, you figured out Russia’s strategy.

They have given the Ukes their ‘pop-top’ tanks !


139 posted on 10/12/2022 10:40:13 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: Alter Kaker

Ukraine has been on its knees for a while.
Just ask Bidenidiot, the EU, the UK, Germany, and NATO.

And you definitely on your knees when you have called for pre-emptive nuclear strikes on Russia multiple times......


140 posted on 10/12/2022 10:40:58 AM PDT by cranked
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