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US Supreme Court Refuses to Hear Fetal Personhood Appeal
Newsmax ^ | October 11, 2022

Posted on 10/11/2022 8:21:01 AM PDT by Navy Patriot

The U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday declined to decide whether fetuses are entitled to constitutional rights in light of its June ruling overturning the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision that had legalized abortion nationwide, steering clear for now of another front in America's culture wars.

The justices turned away an appeal by a Catholic group and two women of a lower court's ruling holding that fetuses lacked the proper legal standing to challenge a 2019 state law codifying the right to abortion in line with the Roe precedent. The two women, pregnant at the time when the case was first filed, sued on behalf of their fetuses and later gave birth.

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To: Navy Patriot

Being too old may not be the only reason many of us will not live to see it. Maybe war, or maybe the end times are nearer. Keep well and keep at Peace.


41 posted on 10/11/2022 11:58:33 AM PDT by Wuli (ur)
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To: Wuli

P.S., I fully understand why you prefer the Strength of Amendment and Ratification, the People Speak through their Representatives, bringing the People closer to their Constitution.


42 posted on 10/11/2022 11:58:58 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: cmj328
The Declaration is not law.

According to the SCOTUS.

43 posted on 10/11/2022 12:00:23 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (The nation of france was named after a hedgehog... The hedgehog's name was Kevin... Don't ask)
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To: Wuli

Thank you, Godspeed.


44 posted on 10/11/2022 12:00:28 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Navy Patriot

I think this is the right decision. Since the Constitution doesn’t address this issue specifically. The SCOTUS should not make a ruling on this, and leave this issue to the legislature of the various states.

The SCOTUS does not exist so the the justices can insert their own opinions into the law. They are there to interpret the law and the Constitution.
If people want a fetal personhood law, get their legislature to pass one. Don’t ask the SCOTUS to create it.


45 posted on 10/11/2022 12:04:09 PM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: Navy Patriot

“bringing the People closer to their Constitution”

In my view, bringing the Constitution closer to the people.

In their brilliance the founders knew what they gave us was not perfect, only the best they could do, and instead of projecting us to rely on more revolutions they installed the ability for us - the people - to change what they gave us, peacefully. That has worked, many times. Unlike France we are not on our nth Republic since our founding, and unlike the U.K. we have a formal Constitution that mere federal legislation alone cannot change. I think ours is the better of the three systems. Not perfect, just the best.


46 posted on 10/11/2022 12:13:44 PM PDT by Wuli (ur)
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To: Wuli
In my view, bringing the Constitution closer to the people.

Sometimes I get things backward.

47 posted on 10/11/2022 12:17:20 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Truthsearcher

A well thought out reply that has considerable support on this thread.


48 posted on 10/11/2022 12:20:35 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
So we're British?

This is the part that is law:

That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do.

49 posted on 10/11/2022 12:59:59 PM PDT by cmj328 (We live here.)
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To: cmj328
No. That is not law. That is a statement of intent.

We said that was how it was, the British legal system disagreed and so we had a war.

We won by the way.

And then the British signed a piece of paper that said we were no longer their property and that, by being a treaty, became law.

And then we had another war because they had their fingers crossed on some parts. We won that war too.

It ended with another treaty.

And this time they stuck to the terms and so we are now friends.

50 posted on 10/11/2022 1:21:17 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (The nation of france was named after a hedgehog... The hedgehog's name was Kevin... Don't ask)
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To: aimhigh
It’s time for Congress to redefine “legal standing”.

Why is that Congress's job?

51 posted on 10/11/2022 1:27:23 PM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: Lower Deck
Why is that Congress's job? Article III of the Constitution says this:

In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction. In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make.

So, Congress does have an express role of determining the jurisdiction of the courts.

52 posted on 10/11/2022 1:34:40 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
and that, by being a treaty, became law

So the British legally declared our independence for us?

53 posted on 10/11/2022 1:48:10 PM PDT by cmj328 (We live here.)
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To: cmj328
Declaring something and having it legally are two different things.

They recognized it with the treaty.

Until they did our independence was considered quazi-legal at best by other countries.

Some recognized it as legal to dunk on the Brits. Still it was with reservations in case we lost.

Some did not to keep British favor or to prevent their own colonies from getting ideas.

But once the treaty was signed by both parties it became legal.

If the British had never recognized it many other countries would not have either, at least not officially.

54 posted on 10/11/2022 1:59:55 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (The nation of france was named after a hedgehog... The hedgehog's name was Kevin... Don't ask)
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To: Navy Patriot

I can’t take credit. Alan Keyes pointed this out when he was running for president.


55 posted on 10/11/2022 5:42:35 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every leftist is a blood-thirsty fascist yearning to be free of current societal constraints.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Until they did our independence was considered quazi-legal at best by other countries.

So our independence is only legal because other countries recognized it?

56 posted on 10/11/2022 5:46:59 PM PDT by cmj328 (We live here.)
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To: cmj328
That is the way it goes.

You can have a passport declaring yourself a citizen of the free state of me and it is not legal unless it is recognized as legal by other states.

57 posted on 10/11/2022 5:51:57 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (The nation of france was named after a hedgehog... The hedgehog's name was Kevin... Don't ask)
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To: Navy Patriot

“I would reply that Justice Delayed is Justice Denied.”

I kinda look at it as no news is good news. The more the courts stay out of government operations, the more control the people have with the control they have been stripped of over the last hundred years. I don’t need overgrown lawyers interpreting what the agenda driven elected officials wish to get by with and make it more confusing than it was. Especially when the judges wish to comingle foreign laws into their evaluation and make it the one size fits all it could be in other countries, but not here. This happening while they continue to hide behind each other until they can spin away what they are doing in their own screwed up little world that will take years to narrow down and correct.

wy69


58 posted on 10/11/2022 7:38:29 PM PDT by whitney69 (quantity)
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To: Navy Patriot
Cowards.

That was my immediate first thought also. 100%.

59 posted on 10/11/2022 7:40:30 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: whitney69
The more the courts stay out of government operations, the more control the people have...

Good point, that is true for courts like SCOTUS (the case here) with lifetime appointments. There may be more accountability in State and Muni Courts where Judges must stand for Election (Remembering that courts are actually part of the Government, and the best Government is the least Government.

I don’t need overgrown lawyers interpreting what the agenda driven elected officials wish to get by with and make it more confusing than it was.

No honest American does, Shyster Lawyers that weaponize Law and Courts against John Ordinary Public for control and thievery, are the norm in America now.

Additionally, proposed Law is written to do the opposite of what John Ordinary Public wants and named to fool John Ordinary Public into supporting those Laws.

Especially when the judges wish to comingle foreign laws into their evaluation...

This is one of the Globo (as in GloboHomoNazi) goals, and has been since the League of Nations went the way the UN should.

...they (Biased Judges & Shyster Lawyers) continue to hide behind each other until they can spin away what they are doing in their own screwed up little world that will take years to narrow down and correct.

If ever.

I don't have an answer for you, (and remember, we are talking about people that think it's noble to kill a defenseless baby and grant special privilege to a Homosexual Pedophile Human Trafficker).

60 posted on 10/12/2022 7:43:20 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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