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Why Russia (probably) blew up the Nord Stream pipeline: To send a message that Europe is vulnerable
Hotair ^ | 10/04/2022 | John Sexton

Posted on 10/04/2022 8:48:46 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

Well at least someone gave a 3-D chess answer as to why Russia may have sabotaged its own pipeline. Not heard shi* from anyone else as to why, especially liberal media outlets.


61 posted on 10/05/2022 12:05:08 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: SeekAndFind

Why Russia didn’t nuke Moscow for the same purpose?:)


62 posted on 10/05/2022 12:15:33 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: SeekAndFind
Russia 'may have packed explosives' onto the Nord Stream pipelines during construction, Ukraine claims
https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/300705066/russia-may-have-packed-explosives-onto-the-nord-stream-pipelines-during-construction-ukraine-claims

63 posted on 10/05/2022 12:16:12 AM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: familyop

All of that is speculative at best, but so is the idea that America’s behind the sabotage. All you’ve got going for it is a nonspecific verbal threat.

Putin’s TV gang includes military advisers and Duma deputies who keep saying tactical nukes are an option... So, if a nuke does go off in Ukraine the prime suspect will be Russia. Right?

But, “false flag” could exploit that, so we can’t rule out other actors.

If we have to discount Russian false flags as plausible we have to do the same on the nuclear first use if it happens. Fair is fair. Either both could be false flags or neither could be, there’s no sense in arguing that only one side is capable of it.


64 posted on 10/05/2022 12:33:08 AM PDT by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe". https://www.thefabulous.co/s/2uHEJdj)
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To: BenLurkin

I’ve seen several I believe do.


65 posted on 10/05/2022 12:54:34 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: SaveFerris

After 2020, do you still believe that was totally on the up and up?


66 posted on 10/05/2022 1:00:49 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: C210N; Macho MAGA Man

Posting for all, will watch later. This must be the vid.

SITREP 10.3.22 - The HAAWC Missile System - If it looks like a duck!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPUwgaAScp8

He’s an interesting guy, I’ve watched some of his vids in the past.


67 posted on 10/05/2022 1:04:18 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: R_Kangel

Correct.


68 posted on 10/05/2022 1:06:26 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster

Well, ya know ....... that was a bit tongue-in-cheek.

Still, I stood in line and voted for McCain.

I had no idea that he was truly that bad.

Talk about two awful choices - and I agree with those that say McCain was the designated loser. And not by accident.


69 posted on 10/05/2022 1:08:52 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: SaveFerris

I voted for Palin. She at least had a track record of messing over corrupt Republicans.


70 posted on 10/05/2022 1:11:23 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster

Yeah, and she was treated so poorly.

The decline of this nation since 2008 is nothing short of jaw-dropping.


71 posted on 10/05/2022 1:15:20 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: AndyJackson

Biden said we would do just that, around February of this year.


72 posted on 10/05/2022 1:28:35 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Kazan

God help us.

No free press….

This guy should now do a piece on why we did it…


73 posted on 10/05/2022 1:52:15 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: SeekAndFind

Biden had the means, the opportunity and the motive. We even have Biden administration officials now saying that blowing up the pipeline was a good thing because it will help fight fight global warming.


74 posted on 10/05/2022 3:16:16 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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To: SeekAndFind

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75 posted on 10/05/2022 3:23:41 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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76 posted on 10/05/2022 4:03:51 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: SeekAndFind

what a load of crap.

to show europe was vulnerable all they had to do was turn off the flow of gas... russia controls the valves.

this was obviously the US. biden said they would do it very recently. and US warships were milling around the area just before the explosion.

dems caught red handed trying to start cold war 2 which will just turn into WW3


77 posted on 10/05/2022 4:07:15 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: SeekAndFind

- Russia invested billions into Nordstream I and II

- Russia gets approx 40% of its foreign currency income from these pipelines

- Russia sailed undetected all the way to Poland to exactly the same location where the US Navy was testing underwater drones just days prior

- and then blew up their own pipeline

- the same day, a new pipeline from Norway opens up, with the intent of supplying gas from the US, a “tremendous opportunity” for the US as stated by US Second of State Blinken

- Joe Biden said he would take out the Russian pipelines

- a former minister from Poland publicly said thank you to the US the day after


78 posted on 10/05/2022 4:35:52 AM PDT by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: SeekAndFind

This guy here delivers a clear explanation of the current situation
https://t.me/GWM3_GlobalSitRep/399

In 1991 there was only one pipeline between the new “Russian Federation” and Europe, the pipeline network going through Ukraine onto the other Warsaw Pact Countries at first, and then to neutral Austria later. Then as NATO and the EU moved moved East, Russia expanded the pipelines from Austria to Germany, then built another pipeline network through Poland and the Visegrad countries and onto the German pipeline network. As NATO interference and Ukraine Corruption increased, Schroder and Putin decided to build Nord Stream 1 to avoid third and fourth party interference. This action to avoid third and fourth party interference only served to increase external interfrence. As Nord Stream 1 was getting built it created a tremendous amount of resentment from the US for a few reasons. First it was connecting Germany with one of the biggest industrial sectors in the world comprised of the very best companies in the world with Russia, a country that needed to catch up in process technologies and product technologies, while also being a country with the most abundance of resources in the world; and secondly, it was not just Germany that was rising and Russia getting into Europe going against the purpose of NATO, it was becoming worse for the US neocons. The more Russian pipelines were built to evade NATO interference and Eastern European corruption, the more Russia was becoming the dominant player in Europe...........


79 posted on 10/05/2022 4:44:50 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: SeekAndFind

Why sabotage the thing when you can just shut off the flow into it?


80 posted on 10/05/2022 4:58:32 AM PDT by cymbeline
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