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Why Russia (probably) blew up the Nord Stream pipeline: To send a message that Europe is vulnerable
Hotair ^ | 10/04/2022 | John Sexton

Posted on 10/04/2022 8:48:46 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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Discussion: saying Russia destroyed a significant infrastructure asset and damaged its economy in the long term sure sends a message all right.

But then again we all knew the global elites think we are idiots.


41 posted on 10/04/2022 9:28:43 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why should Russia blow up the line if they could have closed the line valve and blind-flanged it. Guaranteed not a fart would have flown to the West. Besides don’t you want to know that our heroic president did it as he threatened to do? He will probably tell you he did it himself in a wet suit like the tales he told in Puerto Rico that he grew up in a Puerto Rican neighborhood. You have to learn to trust your president, son.


42 posted on 10/04/2022 9:29:22 PM PDT by 353FMG (Secretly practicing my Putin swagger..)
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To: Rurudyne

[But then again we all knew the global elites think we are idiots.]

Well, the country DID elect Obama not once, but twice, so...........


43 posted on 10/04/2022 9:33:32 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Greta did it without Al’s help, He is too chickensh*t.Joe helped because he likes the combination of water and girls.


44 posted on 10/04/2022 9:36:45 PM PDT by 353FMG (Secretly practicing my Putin swagger..)
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To: SeekAndFind

Russia didn’t do it.

Ukraine didn’t do it.

Brandon did it.


45 posted on 10/04/2022 9:38:55 PM PDT by Allegra
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To: Macho MAGA Man
A HAAWC flying torpedo dropped from a Boeing P-8 Poseidon destroyed the Norden pipeline.

Exactly. Anybody who doubts MAGA Man only needs to view the recent MonkeyWerx for the all-but-proof evidence he presents regarding the aircraft, its HAAWC missile, its flightpath, its decent to launch, its refueling in Europe, and finally its return to the *US*.

46 posted on 10/04/2022 9:42:54 PM PDT by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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To: SaveFerris

We didnt elect 0’, he was selected.


47 posted on 10/04/2022 9:44:06 PM PDT by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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To: SaveFerris

Funny thing, I seem to recall Biden bragging about a voter fraud system and that he inherited it from / built upon what Obama did.


48 posted on 10/04/2022 10:09:32 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: C210N

I think we did it, probably using Polish forces. It stretches credulity to think that a Navy plane on such a mission would be flying with it’s transponder on for tracking. It would have all been turned off black.


49 posted on 10/04/2022 10:23:05 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: DesertRhino
But the Aztecs didn’t attack themselves.

Neither did the Ukrainians.

50 posted on 10/04/2022 10:33:23 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: C210N

I can’t really disagree - still there were a whole lot of idiots that jumped on board


51 posted on 10/04/2022 10:37:27 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Rurudyne

Probably so - Freudian slip


52 posted on 10/04/2022 10:38:00 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes they blew up a pipeline they’d already shut off to make writers point

How stupid these folks are


53 posted on 10/04/2022 10:50:34 PM PDT by wardaddy (Sound and Fury Republic now home to more than a few globalists who really love the mainstream media )
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To: SeekAndFind
.... Wasn't the CIA involved in blowing up the Trans Siberian Pipeline in the early 80's by using a Software attack that created one of the biggest non nuclear explosions in history??? Is it possible they did it again???

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54 posted on 10/04/2022 10:58:55 PM PDT by R_Kangel ("A nation of sheep will beget a nation ruled by wolves")
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To: SeekAndFind

I see no valid reason that Russia would blow up it’s prize asset.

However, I’ve read the company building it is in bankruptcy. Not seen any verification that is true.

I’m not a Putin fan, but I don’t view Volodymyr Oleksandrovych Zelenskyy as one of the good guys in the world. He is one of Klaus Schwab’s chosen Children. (WinderKind, Wonder Child)


55 posted on 10/04/2022 11:00:58 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: HereInTheHeartland

This is as good a theory as any being offered by the MSM, plus Thunberg and Gore have real motives to attack this pipeline


56 posted on 10/04/2022 11:02:54 PM PDT by srmanuel (C)
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To: Kazan

The article has a weak premise - the Russians blew up their own infrastructure to “signal” that they could do it to others.

Thats like saying “watch me punch myself in the face”.


57 posted on 10/04/2022 11:45:27 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: SeekAndFind

“Its unlikely that Russia did this.”

But unlikely doesn’t mean impossible.

A week before the SMO, Russia had no plans to invade Ukraine and Zhirinovsky was just trolling. A week after, it was only about Denazification of the Donbas. And maybe biolabs.

It was unlikely that the war would last more than a week. That Zelenskyy would reject the evac option, unlike Yanukovych and other Russian leaders who book it the minute they know trouble is brewing for them.

It was unlikely that all those millions of Russians in eastern Ukraine wouldn’t surrender willingly instead of yomping slowly to safety all over Europe... Via their Nazi aggressors’ territory. No, they’d have open atms, flowers, songs, and freshly baked cakes.

It was unlikely that Russia would bomb a children’s hospital, and the maternity hospital next-door, after receiving credible intel that they hadn’t been emptied by Azov Nazis.

It was unlikely that Russia would pound Mariupol into rubble with civilians still in it.

It was unlikely that Zaporizhzhia, the go-to safe city for citizens of Mariupol and Melitopol, would ever be really bothered by Russia because it had so many Russian refugees in it, and it wasn’t in the Donbas.

Ditto Vinnitsya and the northern towns being used by evacuees.

It was unlikely that Russia would be so nasty as to flatten a clearly marked civilian shelter with kids in it.

It was unlikely Russia would weaponise grain and breathtakingly stupid to suggest their hopes lie in a famine.

It was unlikely that Russia would rubber-stamp a referendum in a region, with an unheard of puppet appearing out of nowhere to lead it and where they barely control ten percent of the voting age population.

It was unlikely that they’d tell Belarus directly, “you’re part of russia actually” and do it live on TV.

It was unlikely that Ukraine would plough through Russia’s gains and take denis Pushilin’s office over within 24 hours of Pushilin receiving Russian federation membership in a big ceremony.

It was unlikely that Russia would adopt the Z symbol like a crowdsourced Nazi logo, stick it on everything, and then cry foul when the Ukes used it against them by driving unopposed through RF lines and the Khazaks started chucking Russians off buses for parading the new Nazi logo.

It eas unlikely Russia’s stronkest and craziest attack dogs would be Islamist mutts led by a guy who Tiktoks from gas stations inside Russia. It’d be unlikely that the Kadyrovites would just kill anyone and let Allah sort it out.

It was unlikely that pensionable separatists in the Donbas rural towns would drape themselves in the hammer and sickle because they were actually asking for the Soviet Union to come back, not asking for modern Russia specifically.

This war is utterly characterised by whatever the Russian propagandists tell you is implausible, being oh so very plausible.

So i wouldn’t rule it out.


58 posted on 10/04/2022 11:51:47 PM PDT by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe". https://www.thefabulous.co/s/2uHEJdj)
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To: DesertRhino

I’m of the mindset that the US plan was to not try and hide that ‘we’ did it.

Think Nuland and bidAn’s prior comments that we would. The data regarding the US aircraft is of the same vein.

Essentially, the US sent the sabotage missile with the intent to not very much hide the fact.


59 posted on 10/04/2022 11:54:54 PM PDT by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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To: glorgau

Russia punched itself in the face bigly by invading Ukraine in February and it keeps punching itself in the face by doubling down on stupid mission creep.

A better analogy would be, a guy with a betting addiction puts his car keys on the table, then raises, and ends up putting his house keys down because he’s utterly convinced his two pair will beat the bluff... And because he’s gone too far to fold.


60 posted on 10/04/2022 11:58:34 PM PDT by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe". https://www.thefabulous.co/s/2uHEJdj)
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