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Ukraine capital preparing evacuation centers for possible nuclear strike
The Hill ^ | 10/04/2022 | Julia Mueller

Posted on 10/04/2022 9:11:47 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

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To: dforest
The worst part is we all are supposed to be in a nuke situation over a criminal enterprise like Ukraine.

I would say whoever wants it, ITS YOURS.

None of this has to do with the people. It has to do with the idiotic jackasses running the world.

Couldn’t

agree

more.

41 posted on 10/04/2022 10:16:54 AM PDT by Allegra
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Putin winning hearts and minds the old fashioned way.


42 posted on 10/04/2022 10:24:21 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: Allegra; dforest

You two make me very glad we had patriots like Reagan in charge during the Cold War.

You would have surrendered Europe to the Soviets and we would be living in a world under total Communist domination by now.


43 posted on 10/04/2022 10:24:54 AM PDT by Renfrew
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Wonder what Brandon will do, I guess if it’s just a minor nuclear attack he’ll let it go.


44 posted on 10/04/2022 10:27:02 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: TreasonObserver

Putin may be evil, but he’s not an idiot. He wouldn’t blow up a pipeline that was 100 percent financed by the Germans. You can slap your bitch around, and sometimes you must, but you don’t disable her. You need her ass back on the street.


45 posted on 10/04/2022 10:28:15 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: BenLurkin

I don’t think that Kiev is in the area that Russia annexed.


46 posted on 10/04/2022 10:29:28 AM PDT by 353FMG (Secretly practicing my Putin swagger..)
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To: Allegra

Send the money via Hunter Biden and 10% will go to the “big Guy”.


47 posted on 10/04/2022 10:32:52 AM PDT by 353FMG (Secretly practicing my Putin swagger..)
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To: EEGator

Except for a few that were lying around.


48 posted on 10/04/2022 10:35:59 AM PDT by 353FMG (Secretly practicing my Putin swagger..)
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To: Williams

Your post is utterly insane and what’s WORSE is that you are absolutely right!!


49 posted on 10/04/2022 10:39:30 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: TheBattman

>But the point is - your willingness to try to give Russia political cover - is really revealing.

I don’t trust either side. Both sides are at fault and the war needs to end quickly. The only reason both sides are fighting is for mineral rights in eastern Ukraine.


50 posted on 10/04/2022 10:41:24 AM PDT by struggle
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To: es345st

“Ukraine is spitting on anyone trying to come up with a way to end this peacefully.”

You mean you want Ukraine to surrender.

This thing could end this afternoon if Russia declared a cease fire and removed all its forces from Ukraine, as it was internationally recognized in 2013.


51 posted on 10/04/2022 10:54:47 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Renfrew; dforest
You would have surrendered Europe to the Soviets and we would be living in a world under total Communist domination by now.

LOL - keep demonstrating how clueless you are, honey.

You ankle-nippers crack me up.

52 posted on 10/04/2022 11:02:59 AM PDT by Allegra
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To: DannyTN

Your thinking is sound.

We’re in a limited war with Russia. What exactly this means is continuously subject to change. Russia is constrained by the probable response by the west; and, visa versa.

You don’t want to go straight to an all-out war with Russia if they use one or two tactical nukes. The scenario you describe - wiping out all Russian forces in Ukraine - might be sufficient. You want to get the job done and still leave an incentive (another level of escalation) for Putin to seek a negotiated settlement.

Then you see what Putin does.

Putin is in way over his head. This thing was supposed to be over three or five days after it started. At this point, Russia has taken huge loses of its standing army, and has dipped deeply into its so-called reserve. And, it’s being pushed back in three places.

Possibly Putin could cut his loses with a negotiated settlement at this point. But, Putin is currently threatening to use the nuclear option as re-doubling the use of conventional force is clearly not realistic.

Hey, why not resort to threats? If Putin gets his way with threats, then the threats work. Hitler got away with a lot with threats. But, success with threats emboldened him. In 1939, Hitler did not think England would go to war over Poland. When England did, Hitler turned to his foreign minister and said, now what do we do? The thing is, France could have stopped Hitler by occupying the Ruhr, and France and England could have called Hitler’s bluff over the Sudetenland. Standing up to dictators is what we learned is how you prevent aggression, not giving in to threats.

I’m not going to say threatening to use the nuclear option is Putin’s last trick. Actually using tactical nukes is his next trick, and then threatening and using strategic nuclear weapons are his next following tricks. The old-fashioned communists wouldn’t do such a crazy thing, because they actually believed that communism would eventually prevail over capitalism. But, in what does Putin believe? Money, mansions, yachts and hot chicks.

Putin’s fable about the origins of Russia, that it is a unique civilization, etc., etc., is what he does to cajole stupid and drunk Russians into joining his army and getting themselves killed against well-trained and well-equipped Ukrainians. While this looks pathetic to us, Russians have little or no access to independent information.


53 posted on 10/04/2022 11:10:18 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: Monterrosa-24
Let’s see ... Russia is threatening to use nukes 24/7 and you are preparing to blame Ukraine if Russia actually nukes their neighbors.

Well duh! Biden threatened to blow up the Nord Stream pipelines, now that they are blown up, we're blaming Russia!

Do try to keep up, we've always been at war with Eastasia...

54 posted on 10/04/2022 11:11:08 AM PDT by null and void (Can't hear the Rod Serling narration? You are not in the audience. You are a part of the story.)
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To: EEGator
The source material used can be traced.

We went through great pains to recover Soviet warheads from The Soviet diesel-electric submarine K-129.

That material would be traced directly to the rodina...

55 posted on 10/04/2022 11:18:07 AM PDT by null and void (Can't hear the Rod Serling narration? You are not in the audience. You are a part of the story.)
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To: Renfrew

People like you are fossils that have paid no attention to what has been going on in the world since Reagan.

America is no longer Reagan America . It is not run by good people. It is run by world dominating bullies along with the UK and EU counterparts. The other side also has much the same run by the same. I speak mostly for America because I was born here.

Unfortunately for people such as you, you are about to find out how awful the war for domination is going to become. There is no win coming no matter what happens in Ukraine. It will just set the next move in motion. Wake up.

There will be no good side until the Greatest Return reset.


56 posted on 10/04/2022 11:29:06 AM PDT by dforest
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To: EEGator

I was mentioning that earlier, but we are no longer paying any attention to facts. The best propaganda gets the win.

Not to mention, material of other sources can be planted to mess with investigations. That also brings up the fact that maybe there will be no time for that once nukes get lobbed about.


57 posted on 10/04/2022 11:33:07 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Honcho Bongs

Excellent point.


58 posted on 10/04/2022 11:34:10 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Redmen4ever

Generally a good post, but a few things worth pointing out.

Hitler didn’t have nukes. Putin does. Hitler never should’ve been appeased but a miscalculation with Putin is very different than a miscalculation with Hitler. I do believe Putin will commit very irrational acts if he’s sure to go down. Over the last 22 years Putin has carefully constructed a very loyal inner-ring who are loyal to the death. Not saying appease Putin, but I am saying a miscalculation would be catastrophic. You’re right, the commies probably wouldn’t have used strategic nukes, but Putin will if he has to and sees no way out.

The real moral of the story is no additional nations should be allowed to acquire nukes. Iran needs to be removed from the map if necessary to prevent them from obtaining nukes. Too lake for NK.

We’ll see how this situation ends, but it’s going to get worse before it’s gets better and the Biden regime is the last group we want negotiating or making decisions on our behalf.


59 posted on 10/04/2022 11:34:11 AM PDT by Levy78 (Reject modernity, embrace tradition. )
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To: TreasonObserver

We do have the fab two. The Vindmen Brothers. Trump haters both.


60 posted on 10/04/2022 11:36:37 AM PDT by dforest
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