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Biden Administration Throws Cold Water on Ukraine Joining NATO
Newsweek ^ | September 30, 2022 | Nick Reynolds

Posted on 10/01/2022 5:54:12 AM PDT by McGruff

U.S. national security adviser Jake Sullivan says Ukrainian efforts to join NATO should be taken up "at a different time," throwing cold water on the country's desire to join the international alliance and potentially easing Russian tensions as President Vladimir Putin has begun accelerating rhetoric of potential nuclear war.

Ukraine formally applied to join NATO as a military partner on Friday, coinciding with Putin's announcement that Russia would be formally annexing four occupied regions within Ukraine's borders. If accepted, NATO-aligned forces would formally be drawn into the war, pitting forces in the West against the Russian military and, potentially, escalating the conflict.

NATO's Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said earlier Friday that while it supports Ukraine's right to pursue an alliance with NATO, all 30 allies need to reach a consensus on membership.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: botchedinvasion; enjoythesanctions; newsweak; nickreynolds; russialosing; russiaretreating; weaknews
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To: cuz1961

joes only friend is whoever is giving him money at the moment.


61 posted on 10/01/2022 7:35:52 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.)
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To: cranked

The same people who showed up at the first Trump impeachment hearing are the same people pushing this war. They certainly don’t want anyone looking at the vast Ukrainian corruption.


62 posted on 10/01/2022 7:36:50 AM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: cranked; Grognard49

“Oh, BTW, you found your way out of the basement which you dwell in and located the living room where your parents watch TV to get their Social Security #s, their bank account #s, and their credit card #s?”

My parents are dead, a$$hole. We never had a basement.

You are a “stolen valor” phony. You never served as a PJ in the USAF. Had you done so, you would have answered the simple questions asked of you, NONE of which would have exposed any personal, identifying information.

You’re a fraud.


63 posted on 10/01/2022 7:40:32 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

Lies.
Fraud.


64 posted on 10/01/2022 7:42:43 AM PDT by cranked
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To: cranked; Grognard49

“Lies. Fraud.”

Answer the questions re: the DD-214. Pretty easy to do. Exposes no personal identifying info. Why won’t you do it?


65 posted on 10/01/2022 7:44:34 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Fido969
The same people who showed up at the first Trump impeachment hearing are the same people pushing this war. They certainly don’t want anyone looking at the vast Ukrainian corruption.

...and admitting Ukraine into NATO will only increase scrutiny on that corrupt entity as well as their interactions with other NATO countries.

66 posted on 10/01/2022 7:45:03 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: ought-six

Lies
Fraud

Anything else?
That the best you have?


67 posted on 10/01/2022 7:45:19 AM PDT by cranked
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To: cranked

Ukraine will not push Putin’s army out of true ukranian districts but the army will eventually leave and go home. Like german troops did when their leadership collapsed.


68 posted on 10/01/2022 7:48:38 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: cranked

You’re busted. A stolen-valor fraud is about as low as it gets.


69 posted on 10/01/2022 7:48:42 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Lies.
Fraud.

Is that the best you have, as well?


70 posted on 10/01/2022 7:49:09 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

NATO won’t wait for an “agreement” between Ukraine and Russia. That would give Putin veto power and such an agreement is unlikely to occur for decades or at least until Putin is out of power. Ukraine won’t even talk to Russia again until Putin is out of power.

NATO has an incentive to make recurrence of the war unlikely so that refugees can return and they can stop war funding and start funding reconstruction. Acceptance into NATO does that. Pandering to Russia’s preference resulted in war.

NATO likely will and should insist at a minimum on a commitment and plan to restore democratic norms. There may be a need to continue some aspects of martial law especially in the territories Russia occupied during reconstruction. But Ukraine could be admitted by NATO prior to full restoration of democratic norms. Perhaps with continued membership contingent on adhering to a reasonable plan.


71 posted on 10/01/2022 7:57:16 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
You’re busted. A stolen-valor fraud is about as low as it gets.

You are so low that your chin is hitting the floor.


72 posted on 10/01/2022 8:00:39 AM PDT by Fairhairedboy (MAGA)
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To: cranked

It causes your browser to pull the image from imgur’s server, not FR’s. Same as just posting the link.


73 posted on 10/01/2022 8:01:01 AM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: Sequoyah101

joes only friend is whoever is giving him money at the moment
/\

I agree.
He could probably be bought with a pudding cup now days.

.( maybe we should try that /-)


74 posted on 10/01/2022 8:04:05 AM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: cranked; Grognard49

Why do you steadfastly refuse to answer the questions re: your DD-214? It’s obvious: You either don’t have one, and never did have one; or you have one, and it does not support your claim of heroics.

Either way, you are a fraud.


75 posted on 10/01/2022 8:04:07 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

Lies
Fraud.

And that the best you got, as well?

Three Stooges going on while banging their heads against the wall.....


76 posted on 10/01/2022 8:06:49 AM PDT by cranked
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To: McGruff

Different time? How about, never?


77 posted on 10/01/2022 8:06:49 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: McGruff

Different time? How about, never?


78 posted on 10/01/2022 8:06:49 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: ought-six
We never had a basement.

Let me see a picture of your "no basement" or you're nothing but a fraud and a liar.

79 posted on 10/01/2022 8:10:04 AM PDT by Fairhairedboy (MAGA)
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To: McGruff

You have to wonder why would Z say this without knowing Ron Klain and Susan Rice were on board

Lefties who hate the military and western Christian civilization and who are now running most western nations love military power projection fighting the great unwoke Satan Putin but man are they inept as F

Not their blood though just our money


80 posted on 10/01/2022 8:11:02 AM PDT by wardaddy (Sound and Fury Republic)
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