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The head of Siemens Energy criticizes the "keeper" mentality of the Germans
Die Welt ^

Posted on 09/30/2022 9:38:03 PM PDT by FarCenter

The CEO of Siemens Energy is asking his compatriots to do without: "Just switching to a big electric car" is not a solution, according to Christian Bruch. Energy will remain expensive in the long term - and that will cost Germany many jobs.

According to Christian Bruch, CEO of the Dax group Siemens Energy, German companies and consumers are facing drastic changes. "This crisis will fundamentally change Europe's economy like nothing before," Bruch told Der Spiegel .

According to Bruch, he expects companies to leave the country and jobs to be relocated on a massive scale. Energy will always be more expensive in this country than anywhere else in the world.

"We should consider whether it makes sense to relocate particularly energy-intensive production stages to where energy is cheaper," he concludes. That could mean, for example, that steel slabs or ethylene would tend to be produced elsewhere in the future. In return, “downstream value-added stages could stay here, because many jobs depend on them,” said Bruch.

Lifestyle changes required

He called for the energy price cap just announced by the federal government to be implemented quickly, "so that companies don't collapse in droves. But we certainly have to change our lifestyle as well,” the “Spiegel” quotes Bruch as saying.

The average German needs about eight times more energy than a person in Asia. "We have to get to it." A basic problem in Germany is that "we are always concerned with preservation". It cannot be a solution to “simply switch to a large electric car”.

(Excerpt) Read more at welt.de ...


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1 posted on 09/30/2022 9:38:03 PM PDT by FarCenter
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To: FarCenter

Yhese people reek of evil, this is what has wrecked much of the US and led to the fentanyl epidemic.


2 posted on 09/30/2022 9:43:36 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: FarCenter

There you have it. In the liberals’ eyes it’s not their failed energy policies that’s the problem. It’s that we refuse to live like folks in the 3rd world.


3 posted on 09/30/2022 9:44:59 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Tell It Right

Bingo. Those German people use 8X the energy of those frugal Asians. Time to cut the chocolate ration!


4 posted on 09/30/2022 9:49:04 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“I used to be nothing but a Deplorable Clinger, but I've been promoted to Brigadier Ultra-MAGA”)
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To: FarCenter

Allen Bradley.


5 posted on 09/30/2022 9:54:37 PM PDT by blackdog ("That's an applause line you useful idiots" )
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To: FarCenter

Shutting down the nuclear reactors and coal power plants is not ending well.


6 posted on 09/30/2022 10:03:29 PM PDT by jdt1138 (Where ever you go, there you are.)
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To: FarCenter
Does the UK still have coal? If so, then they are close to a source of energy and can re-industrialize and swell the middle class.

But that would go against the WEF's desire to turn every country into a banana republic of a few billionaires and a mass of poor.

7 posted on 09/30/2022 10:11:25 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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To: FarCenter

Bruch’s not much of a business man is he? Doesn’t seem to know what makes jobs.


8 posted on 09/30/2022 10:17:24 PM PDT by TigersEye (The Democrat Party is criminal, unAmerican and illegitimate )
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To: FarCenter

Maybe they should stop subsidizing electric cars.

Of the 890,000 electric cars registered in Germany over the past 10 years, the vast bulk of which were bought with grants, just 756,517 remain in the country, according to a study of official data.

While a small number of the missing cars will have been taken out of service, most of them have been sold to drivers in neighbouring countries at a profit, according to two leading industry figures.

“By the time the one millionth new battery electric passenger car is registered later this year, close to one-fifth of those cars would have left German roads during the last decade,” said Matthias Schmidt, a Berlin-based analyst who carried out the research.

“The loser is the German taxpayer, who is indirectly subsidising clean air in cities outside of Germany.”

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9 posted on 09/30/2022 10:19:42 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> --- )
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To: FarCenter

I did some business with Siemens many years ago.

Sometimes I had to call the Uk branch, I tried not to laugh every time their receptionist answered the phone and said
“Siemens Staines”


10 posted on 09/30/2022 10:40:27 PM PDT by algore
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

One added comment, on the eight-times of usage....remember that the bulk of German homes (probably 90) don’t have AC units for summer heat.

On the whole of this report, he’s correct in that German electricity is among the most expensive of Europe, and has never had a plan to produce ‘cheap’ electrical power. At some point, competitive states will take up German companies and the jobs. It’s just a matter of when the ‘game’ changes.


11 posted on 09/30/2022 10:45:35 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: FarCenter

I hear Siemens still has plenty of concentration camp materials and ZyklonB in storage. They are ‘keepers’ after all.

Maybe the WEF’s plans for Europe will let them finally use it up.


12 posted on 09/30/2022 11:02:11 PM PDT by bakeneko
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13 posted on 09/30/2022 11:25:31 PM PDT by musicman (The future is just a collection of successive nows.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Yes, we still have coal. 300 years worth at the last guess. But now nothing to convert it to electricity with. They shut down the coal burners, then demolished them. Just in time for the current crisis....


14 posted on 10/01/2022 2:02:20 AM PDT by moose07 (If the spelling is bad, you know the poster is real. )
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To: algore

“Siemens Staines”

That IS funny.


15 posted on 10/01/2022 2:08:21 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (It amazes me how much "exercise" and "extra fries" sound alike.)
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To: FarCenter

Germans are relocating to South America in droves


16 posted on 10/01/2022 3:56:42 AM PDT by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives. Leftists are genocidal. )
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To: FarCenter

If only the Germans could develop a small, fuel efficient car for the masses...a, “people’s car,” so to speak...


17 posted on 10/01/2022 4:02:20 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: FarCenter

“Energy will always be more expensive in this country than anywhere else in the world.”

Energy doesn’t have to be so expensive in Germany. There is no immutable law of economics which says energy must be more expensive in Germany than anywhere else. The sky high cost is the result of CHOICES Germany made. It could always make different choices that would dramatically reduce both dependence on foreign energy as well as the price paid for energy.

Here are some immutable truths the Germans will have to face:

1) you are never going to conserve your way out of this problem. Running a modern economy and living a modern life takes energy. It always has and it always will.

2) wind and solar are never going to deliver anywhere near enough energy anywhere near reliably enough to meet the needs of a modern economy. Its not going to happen. Ever. Because physics. No really. Quintupling down and wishing even harder are not going to change that. Plastering every square centimeter of your country in solar panels and building a gazillion more wind turbines is not going to do it.

3) So....you need energy. You can’t get it from wind and solar. Russian energy is now out. Where are you going to get the energy you so desperately need? (que jeopardy music). Remember, you need it NOW - not at some theoretical future date. Gosh....how did your parents and grandparents and great grandparents meet the need for energy in your country? They managed to keep the lights on. They managed to take hot showers.


18 posted on 10/01/2022 4:29:41 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: FLT-bird

Here are some immutable truths the Germans will have to face:
1. You are never going to conserve your way out of this problem...
2. Wind and solar are never going to deliver anywhere near enough energy anywhere near reliably enough to meet the needs of a modern economy...
3. So...you need energy. You can’t get it from wind and solar....

+++++++++++++++++++++++++

100% TRUE. Just substitute “California” for “Germany” in the above and you have another truism.


19 posted on 10/01/2022 5:49:44 AM PDT by mund1011 (We can ignore reality, but we cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality)
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To: Chickensoup

Nazi Argentinians.


20 posted on 10/01/2022 6:36:01 AM PDT by nwrep
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