Signing of treaties on accession of Donetsk and Lugansk people's republics and Zaporozhye and Kherson regions to Russia -- Part 1

“Spanish speaking’ is not a skin color...”

This is the exact juxtaposition I meant to make. In other words, the binding power of language will cause white and brown spanish speaking people to choose mexico when they outnumber the white, english speaking people. Just like the russian speaking people are doing in eastern ukraine today.

That is the mist laughable statement I’ve read here in years.

The Mexicans are assimilating?

Guess that’s why Newsom signed a law the other day giving illegals state ID and more access to state insurance and welfare making them de facto citizens. They’re all troo blue ‘Mericans!

Have no idea where you live but I’m right on the coast in NorCal, been here for 4 decades now. Born and raised in Southern Arizona, right on the border.

California and Arizona look nothing like they used to.

We are ruled by Mexicans in our legislature who do everything possible to make California Mexico. Arizona is still resisting, but you can be assured that the Rat party works every day to bring more of them in so they can outnumber us there.

It already happened in California.

You gonna stand there with a straight face and say “they are the Americans” ?

You cannot get a customer facing job in California without knowledge of the enemy language known as Spanish. If you are Whit Protestant (you know, the Anglo-Saxons Putin was referring to), you can pretty much forget about getting into a UC school, and maybe even the Cal State school of your choice. That’s reserved for the people who were never here, who snuck in yesterday. Construction jobs? 100% Mexican, you gotta espeaky de Spanish. Otherwise effoff, gringo.

Your statements are fatuous nonsense, and Bad Vlad is far closer to the truth.

—> it will be the USA/EU vs everyone else

The debt-based economies that are bankrupt

—> BRIC, of BRICS, is sticking together. A lot of other countries are wanting to join BRICS.

Larger total economy, produce commodities.

The US sanctions were a wake up call to them. They will Forman alternative banking system, currency, etc.

I think this will happen suddenly and catch most western citizens by surprise.

Just read the first couple of paragraphs, and you get the gist.

I live in the Chicago Metro. Chicago alone is nearly 30% Hispanic. With the entire 9.5 million metro at 22% Hispanic. And from my vantage point they aren’t taking over. I can go to any Mexican neighborhood in Chicago and order lunch in English. Even the street vendors will figure out how to sell to me and they usually don’t speak English. And as I do my thing in real estate, I never feel any disrespect towards me for not being one of them.

And if white ppl don’t care to reproduce to replacement levels, this trend will continue.

And what I said exactly is that I saw a documentary that second generation immigrants from Mexico were more likely than not, to not self identify as Hispanic. If we have an immigration moratorium like we did in the last century, I’m fairly confident after a couple generations we would see the melting pot is still in force. But if we continue letting in 2 million migrants a year, all bets are off, because the white birth rate is simply so low.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/226292/us-fertility-rates-by-race-and-ethnicity/

According to that article the white birth rate is 1.55 children per woman.

When does part 2 drop?

If illegal, and most legal, immigrants were readily assimilating the rats wouldn’t be so keen to flood the country with them.

It’s that simple.

Here is Part 2 of Putin’s speech. (Part 1 is at the top of this thread.)

I want to make special note of the fact that there is every reason to believe that the Western elites are not going to look for constructive ways out of the global food and energy crisis that they and they alone are to blame for, as a result of their long-term policy, dating back long before our special military operation in Ukraine, in Donbass. They have no intention of solving the problems of injustice and inequality. I am afraid they would rather use other formulas they are more comfortable with.

And here it is important to recall that the West bailed itself out of its early 20th century challenges with World War I. Profits from World War II helped the United States finally overcome the Great Depression and become the largest economy in the world, and to impose on the planet the power of the dollar as a global reserve currency. And the 1980s crisis – things came to a head in the 1980s again – the West emerged from it unscathed largely by appropriating the inheritance and resources of the collapsed and defunct Soviet Union. That’s a fact.

Now, in order to free itself from the latest web of challenges, they need to dismantle Russia as well as other states that choose a sovereign path of development, at all costs, to be able to further plunder other nations’ wealth and use it to patch their own holes. If this does not happen, I cannot rule out that they will try to trigger a collapse of the entire system, and blame everything on that, or, God forbid, decide to use the old formula of economic growth through war.

Russia is aware of its responsibility to the international community and will make every effort to ensure that cooler heads prevail.

The current neocolonial model is ultimately doomed; this much is obvious. But I repeat that its real masters will cling to it to the end. They simply have nothing to offer the world except to maintain the same system of plundering and racketeering.

They do not give a damn about the natural right of billions of people, the majority of humanity, to freedom and justice, the right to determine their own future. They have already moved on to the radical denial of moral, religious, and family values.

Let’s answer some very simple questions for ourselves. Now I would like to return to what I said and want to address also all citizens of the country – not just the colleagues that are in the hall – but all citizens of Russia: do we want to have here, in our country, in Russia, “parent number one, parent number two and parent number three” (they have completely lost it!) instead of mother and father? Do we want our schools to impose on our children, from their earliest days in school, perversions that lead to degradation and extinction? Do we want to drum into their heads the ideas that certain other genders exist along with women and men and to offer them gender reassignment surgery? Is that what we want for our country and our children? This is all unacceptable to us. We have a different future of our own.

Let me repeat that the dictatorship of the Western elites targets all societies, including the citizens of Western countries themselves. This is a challenge to all. This complete renunciation of what it means to be human, the overthrow of faith and traditional values, and the suppression of freedom are coming to resemble a “religion in reverse” – pure Satanism. Exposing false messiahs, Jesus Christ said in the Sermon on the Mount: “By their fruits ye shall know them.” These poisonous fruits are already obvious to people, and not only in our country but also in all countries, including many people in the West itself.

The world has entered a period of a fundamental, revolutionary transformation. New centres of power are emerging. They represent the majority – the majority! – of the international community. They are ready not only to declare their interests but also to protect them. They see in multipolarity an opportunity to strengthen their sovereignty, which means gaining genuine freedom, historical prospects, and the right to their own independent, creative and distinctive forms of development, to a harmonious process.

As I have already said, we have many like-minded people in Europe and the United States, and we feel and see their support. An essentially emancipatory, anti-colonial movement against unipolar hegemony is taking shape in the most diverse countries and societies. Its power will only grow with time. It is this force that will determine our future geopolitical reality.

Friends,

Today, we are fighting for a just and free path, first of all for ourselves, for Russia, in order to leave dictate and despotism in the past. I am convinced that countries and peoples understand that a policy based on the exceptionalism of whoever it may be and the suppression of other cultures and peoples is inherently criminal, and that we must close this shameful chapter. The ongoing collapse of Western hegemony is irreversible. And I repeat: things will never be the same.

The battlefield to which destiny and history have called us is a battlefield for our people, for the great historical Russia. (Applause.) For the great historical Russia, for future generations, our children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren. We must protect them against enslavement and monstrous experiments that are designed to cripple their minds and souls.

Today, we are fighting so that it would never occur to anyone that Russia, our people, our language, or our culture can be erased from history. Today, we need a consolidated society, and this consolidation can only be based on sovereignty, freedom, creation, and justice. Our values are humanity, mercy and compassion.

And I want to close with the words of a true patriot Ivan Ilyin: “If I consider Russia my Motherland, that means that I love as a Russian, contemplate and think, sing and speak as a Russian; that I believe in the spiritual strength of the Russian people. Its spirit is my spirit; its destiny is my destiny; its suffering is my grief; and its prosperity is my joy.”

Behind these words stands a glorious spiritual choice, which, for more than a thousand years of Russian statehood, was followed by many generations of our ancestors. Today, we are making this choice; the citizens of the Donetsk and Lugansk people’s republics and the residents of the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions have made this choice. They made the choice to be with their people, to be with their Motherland, to share in its destiny, and to be victorious together with it.

The truth is with us, and behind us is Russia!

(Applause.)

Nope. If those were WASP’s flooding the borders the RatCom party would have 40’ high ramparts with machine guns.

Chicago was 7.4% "hispanic" in 1970, mostly from PR. Mexican born were 39,000-ish, or about 1.2%.

Shaping Illinois

Fast forward to present day and it's 30%? And you say they aren't taking over? Well bubba, ask yourself this: if that 30% were WASPs from Kennebunkport, do you think Lori Lighthead would be Queen of Chi-Town? Y'all are vastly outnumbered by a coalition of the Brown.

But don't worry...evahthang gon' be alright, right? That's what the Libs be tellin' me last 50 yearsish.

Speaking English? In Illinois they figure they have to. It ain't like beating up on vapid, squish California Whites who feel guilty about occupying "Spanish land". They're that stupid. But don't worry, the Spanish language is really important to them, and most important is forcing YOU to speak it: it's a sign of your weakness, and their strength. Just ask them. They won't be bashful about telling you.

Me, I was conversational in Spanish until I decided I wasn't gonna play the game anymore. A few machos in Austin told me over breakfast beer one morning that "you gonna speak Spahn-ish!" while clicking their silver toed boots. That was 30 years ago. It ain't there yet, but it's a lot closer. Nowadays I just speak to them in Russian. Watching their confusion is worth the trouble. The fact that they are experiencing what Americans experience with them escapes them of course.

"And if white ppl don’t care to reproduce to replacement levels"

I don't know how old you are but 50 years ago the government and the early Watermelons were screaming about Overpopulation and why we needed to abort ourselves. This is what was said:

"The March 27, 1972, report, requested by President Nixon and authorized by Congress, called for the legalization of abortion through the second trimester, taxpayer funding of abortion, and other policy initiatives to reduce the number of children conceived and born in the United States"

Reference:

Rockefeller Commission

At the time it was positively terrifying. We were all gonna die by 1990 according to Genius Paul Ehrlich, Butterfly Guy from Stahn-Ford. And this was why Roe v. Wade was decided: the court thought they needed to legitimize baby murder to keep us all from eating each other in thirty years. Or maybe Thanos showing up.

It was of course all nonsense. Along with global cooling/warming/changing/imploding/whatever.

And that noise lasted well into the 80's until...the Rats realized that it was their supporters who were aborting themselves out of existence. What to do?! IMPORT NEW VOTERS!

Yeah, that's the answer. So they did. After being the gang that wrote the immigration restriction laws for the previous century to "protect working class jobs".

And that, along with the influx of women into the workforce in 1977 or so was what caused the reduced fertility of the White girls.

Will it happen with the Messicans? Somewhat. But they aren't bashful about taking free cash from the Caspers (us) to raise their ninos: they figure we owe them.

"to not self identify as Hispanic"

That's patent nonsense and propaganda. "Don't worry little Whiteys, they'll be just like you in 40 years". Bunk. Maybe in the cold, cold North where they're surrounded by lilly white suburbs, but in the Southwest it's either hispanic/chicano/latino/mestizo or Aztlanista. Words we never heard in the SW until about '68.

"If we have an immigration moratorium like we did in the last century, I’m fairly confident after a couple generations we would see the melting pot is still in force. But if we continue letting in 2 million migrants a year, all bets are off, because the white birth rate is simply so low"

For once we agree. But an immigration moratorium at this point will be almost irrelevant for CA, AZ, NM and TX. The damage is done. Town after town, city after city in these states are now majority Mexican, and that's who rules them.

Wasn't much point in my family fighting and dying in all those wars since 1770, huh? Hell, the people we fought now strut around the country and refer to themselves as "the Americans". My G-Uncle fought with Pershing on the border in 1915. Staged outta Las Cruces. Never caught up with Villa. Mexicans in AZ still celebrate that.

You see the world from the viewpoint of someone unfamiliar with actual Mexican people, culture or history. It's a violent, vicious and revanchist society. Spain is the root country for this, but of course Aztec and Toltec history is part of that. Neither of them ever accomplished much except taking, not making. So the model is simple: move in, infiltrate, insinuate and then attack. It's what the Aztecs did to the Toltecs; what the Spanish did to the Aztecs. In their society, if you can take something, you are strong and the other guy is weak. Steal something? It's yours unless the victim can take it back. Perro Come Perro, ese.

Bienvenidos a Nueva America.

All of this could have been avoid if Obama didn’t send Victoria Nuland to Ukraine with 6 billion dollars . Even if it was done with the best of intentions (which I doubt) these kind of interferences always blow up in our face.

100%

“American culture is [rotting from the inside out].”

Fixed that fer ya.

YW

...the words of a true patriot Ivan Ilyin: “If I consider Russia my Motherland, that means ... that I believe in the spiritual strength of the Russian people...”

Not for nothing (and Putin’s indictment of the West does cut to the bone, and even, at times, deeper), but, spiritually speaking, Russia itself is nearly dead.

Don’t even want to cite the specific criteria that prove the veracity of this statement.

They are just too harrowing.

“spiritually speaking, Russia itself is nearly dead.

Don’t even want to cite the specific criteria that prove the veracity of this statement.

They are just too harrowing.”

You may benefit from watching this podcast that has a different opinion. 15 mins. long.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GYjw4MoR8w

Jordan Peterson STUNS Lex Fridman on Vladimir Putin!!!

I was particularly struck by the point Peterson made that “Retraditionaliztion and Sacralization of Worldview Matters” that Putin is bringing about in Russia is actually going on over much of the world (80%). People are rejecting liberal Western globalism and wokeism and returning to nation, culture, custom and traditions.

Not disputing what you’ve said or trying to drain your enthusiasm.

But are you aware of the thoroughly spiritually debased condition of the Russian people, the Russian family, Russian society?

Talk about starting over from scratch...

Our Lady of Fatima, pray for us (and for the people of Russia).

I don’t know that you clicked on the link I provided because your response just repeated your original post and did not recognize any of what Jordan Peterson was pointing out to typical Westerners that exhibit knee-jerk Russophobia. Peterson finds Putin sincere and believes he is at the forefront of a worldwide movement that is rejecting Western godlessness, globalization and wokeism and returning to their religion and tradition heritage.

Russia was a destroyed country on every level when Putin came to power. On every measurable economic or societal metric there has been dramatic improvement during his leadership which undoubtedly explains his 80% approval rating.

He began as a communist and came to the conclusion that communism was destructive not the envisioned utopia and that in order to save Russia it must return to its Christian past and its culture, traditions, etc.

Pew research (2014)

Over the past two decades, since the collapse of the Soviet Union, there has been an upsurge in affiliation with Orthodox Christianity in Russia.1 Between 1991 and 2008, the share of Russian adults identifying as Orthodox Christian rose from 31% to 72%, according to a new Pew Research Center analysis of three waves of data (1991, 1998 and 2008) from the International Social Survey Programme (ISSP) – a collaboration involving social scientists in about 50 countries. During the same period, the share of Russia’s population that does not identify with any religion dropped from 61% to 18%. The share of Russian adults identifying with other religions, including Islam, Protestant Christianity and Roman Catholicism, rose in the 1990s and then leveled off.

Here is a five year old post from a Russian living in Russia

Aleksandr Donskoy https://www.quora.com/Why-doesnt-the-West-understand-Putin?top_ans=341529790 (Click on the link for details)
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In 1999 the Russian GDP was 195 billion, now it’s 3750 billion PPP. A lot of people don’t care because everybody that’s like 25+ had real economic problems not this crap, those who didn’t, are still in school therefor care even less.

In 1999, people were drinking tap water because it’s free and eating potato skins to survive. There were wars in Chechnya and Dagestan, crime everywhere, terrorist attacks…

Little “personal” experience: In 1998, my brother withdrew money from the bank and as soon as he stepped outside he got robbed. He then went to the cops, offered them a bribe and they said “No thanks, my life’s worth more than your money. That bank’s known for working with the mafia”.

10/10 quality police work. Definitely picked the right job.

In 99, you need to worry about food [or getting blown up in a metro] and in 2017, you might have to skip one iPhone in the series and go from 5 to 7 rather than 5,6,7. Very tragic, sure, but survivable.

It’s like being homeless, winning the lottery then losing your shoes. How upset are you really going to get?

Side note: A lot of people are worried about the direction the economy’s headed but you can blame that on oil prices and ridiculous sanctions by people who deliver “democracy” across the globe and refuse to accept practically unanimous votes rather than on Putin.

There’s actually an animated country ball about this (starts at 1:24, captions work)

And this was obviously a big boost on his approval. Some thing’s are more important than money:

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15 years of Putin
How Russia changed in the 15 years since Putin came into power.
1999
GDP:
195 billion. USD
GDP per person:
1,320 USD
Inflation:
36.5%
Gold-Foreign ex. reserve:
12.6 bil USD
National debt:
78% GDP
Pension:
499 RUB
Income:
1,522 RUB

2013
GDP:
2,113 bil. USB
GDP per person:
14,800 USD
Inflation:
6.5%
Gold-Foreign ex. reserve:
511 bil. USB
National debt:
8% GDP
Pension:
10,000 RUB
Income:
29,940 RUB

Now, societal change: Freepers relentlessly post inaccurate data about things like abortion and drunkenness. Facts are that abortion rates have plummeted in Russia (down 75%) and are now lower than ours here in the U.S

So much BS on Free Republic “vodka-swilling Russian populace”

Alcohol consumption frequency in Russia 2009-2021
Published by Statista Research Department, Aug 30, 2022

In 2021, 38 percent of Russians reported not drinking alcohol, a share that slightly increased from the previous year. Among the alcohol consuming population, only five percent reported drinking it daily or several times per week.

Bottom line, Putin has been a “godsend” for Russia. Russia was a basket case when he took office. Today it is clearly an ascending country and unfortunately we are a descending one. Maybe we ought to take a page out of Putin’s book and return to our religious and traditional heritage.

Posting for purposes of discussion only:

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OCTOBER 2, 2008

Russia: 64% of Pregnancies End in Abortion

TIM WAGGONER

Alarmingly high abortion rates in Russia are leaving an increasing number of women infertile, said Marina Tarasova, deputy head of the St. Petersburg Research Institute For Gynecology and Obstetrics of the Russian Academy of Sciences, at an international conference on Monday.

The St. Petersburg Times reported that with 64 percent of Russian women procuring abortions, 200,000 to 250,000 women each year are stripped of their biological ability to procreate because of permanent effects from the procedure.

“Over the past five years, female infertility in Russia has increased by 14 percent, and over 1.5 million Russians need advanced medical technology to become pregnant and maintain a healthy pregnancy,” Tarasova said.

She also mentioned that by the end of last year, there were 5.5 million infertile couples in the country.

In the teenage population, one in four women have a gynecological ailment or reproductive disorder. Furthermore, over the last five years, there has been a 30 percent increase in the number of women aged 15-17 who have experienced these health problems.

The Russian government is attempting to promote family values within the country, naming 2008, “The Year of the Family.” Abortions, however, are still offered free of charge at all state clinics.

https://catholicexchange.com/russia-64-of-pregnancies-end-in-abortion/

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Dr. Paul Kengor reported on November 17, 2020:

To this day, the countries with the highest abortion rates remain communist or recently communist: Russia, Cuba, Romania, Vietnam, China.

https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2020/11/17/november-1920-2020-a-century-of-abortion-in-russia/

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Fr. Joseph Gleason recently reported:

Abortion Rate Decreasing in Russia

Fr. Joseph
Sep 20

Just yesterday, I received a letter from a priest I deeply respect, who lives in America. Even though Russia has been in the news recently, defending traditional family values, this priest pointed back to Russia’s dark Soviet past. He reminded me that abortion was first legalized in Russia, and that many innocent children have lost their lives as a result. Isn’t it shameful that Russia still permits abortion?

Indeed, it is shameful. We should not rest until abortion is outlawed, not only in Russia, but in every nation of the world. Obviously, we still haven’t reached this goal.

Thankfully, things are getting better in Russia. As can be seen in the graph above, the number of abortions have been significantly decreasing in Russia for more than 20 years.

Also encouraging is this piece of good news that was announced several months ago:

Russian Authorities to Halve Number of Abortions by 2025

According to this news report, the government of the Russian Federation is making a concerted effort to significantly reduce the number of abortions. At the federal level, Russia is beginning to take abortion seriously, and to fight against it.

As the old saying goes, the question is not where we were, the question is where we are going. And if the above news is any indication, Russia is going in the right direction.

https://movingtorussia.substack.com/p/abortion-rate-decreasing-in-russia

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1034529/russia-total-number-of-abortions/

Very good chart showing each year. In 2000 — 2,138,000

By 2020 down to 553,000

Latest report Abortion in Russia - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki

Official statistics put the number of abortions at 450,000 in 2020. As of 2021, the abortion rate was 12 abortions per year per 1000 women aged 15–44 years.

As Father Gleason in your response stated: “As the old saying goes, the question is not where we were, the question is where we are going. And if the above news is any indication, Russia is going in the right direction.”

Spiritual healing takes time but it is good to know that in this area Russia is improving and healing.