It's only just a pipe, when you think about it.
Posted on 09/29/2022 4:59:14 AM PDT by JonPreston
It's only just a pipe, when you think about it.
Nord Stream 2 requires military protection
[ARTICLE FROM APRIL 2021]
The West continues to put pressure on Russia to stop the construction of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline - and the most important event in this chain was the Polish military provocations. Can opponents of the gas pipeline resort to real military operations against Nord Stream 2 - and if so, what should Russia counter this with?
Recall that in early April 2021, the situation around the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline seriously escalated. A significant number of civilian ships and warships (mostly Polish), as well as submarines, made dangerous maneuvers around the pipeline construction vessel Fortuna. Polish military aircraft flew around and over the construction site.
Real provocations and future sabotage
In parallel with the provocative actions, a number of Western officials made statements according to which Russia allegedly intends to use the pipeline to seize the Baltic, place its warships along it, and reconnaissance equipment on it. An example is an article by Polish official Stanislaw Zaryn, representative of the Polish Minister Coordinating Special Services, in the US online publication Defense News, in which he “warns” the US and the West that Russia may place “intelligence systems” on the pipeline. Similar insinuations have been heard in the West before, including from higher-ranking officials and politicians.
These statements, it can be assumed, are made in order to politically exclude in advance the possibility of Russia installing security systems near the pipeline and guarding it by our ships. To make it so that with any attempt by Russia to guarantee the safe operation of Nord Stream 2 by special means, a scandal could be raised on the topic of “Russian aggression”. We are talking, in particular, about systems that would not allow sabotage to be carried out on it (the Poles are trying to present this equipment in advance as “reconnaissance systems”).
In other words, opponents of the strategic Russian gas pipeline want Nord Stream 2 to be technically defenseless against possible military operations. So, if necessary, it could be disabled with the help of sabotage means. Moreover, the “respected partners” have all the means for this. It sounds like some kind of cheap conspiracy theory, but, alas, there are no other rational explanations for these actions and statements.
Enough has already been said about the political and economic meaning of the attacks on Nord Stream 2 and Ukraine, the United States, and a number of other countries. It has been repeatedly stated that the construction of the gas pipeline is categorically unacceptable for both Kyiv and Washington. The commissioning of Nord Stream 2 will cause significant damage both to Ukraine and to the political course of the West to isolate our country. Numerous sanctions have already been adopted against the gas pipeline and new ones have been announced. And if all this does not help, it is quite possible to assume that military methods will be adopted. Of course, secret, because open military aggression against the gas pipeline is politically impossible.
Forces and means of the enemy
What military means can be used by a party wishing to harm the pipeline? There is an answer to this question.
The pipeline mainly runs at depths of about 100-150 meters, often closer to a hundred. The use of combat swimmers for sabotage at such a depth is excluded - the need to undergo decompression requires the presence of a vessel with a pressure chamber somewhere nearby, which in itself is a strong unmasking factor. In addition, such an operation takes time. The use of depth charges will unequivocally indicate that the military of some country was working. In addition, the stealth factor again arises - a ship with this weapon will not have time to leave after its use. The attack must be completely invisible.
Under such conditions, the most likely means to attack the pipeline is the so-called mine destroyer - a disposable uninhabited underwater vehicle (UUV), controlled from a surface ship via a fiber-optic cable, having its own television camera and a simple sonar. Such devices are in service with foreign fleets in huge quantities. The device carries an explosive charge on board, the remote detonation of which destroys the mine.
The main feature in the case of Nord Stream is that the device can be secretly launched from a ship located quite far (several kilometers) from the pipeline, and connected to the pipeline remotely. The explosion of the apparatus will be carried out when the ship is not next to it. It will be enough for the crew of the ship to simply throw the control equipment overboard in order to calmly leave the place of sabotage.
Poland has the ability to use such devices. The US, of course, too. In addition, the mercenary industry developed in the United States makes it possible to work not with the hands of their own military personnel or the military personnel of the Polish Armed Forces, but to use mercenaries to train some kind of “cannon fodder” for such an operation. For example, even from Ukraine, whose citizens are well aware of how the launch of Nord Stream 2 will turn out for their country.
The risk of launching such a UUV from a submarine is low. No one in the Baltic has powerful enough NLAs that could be launched through a 53 cm torpedo tube (standard for NATO), intelligence can uncover their development, and such a loss of surprise is unacceptable. The modernization of the submarine to carry the NPA from the outside, perhaps, will also be opened - and is also unacceptable. And this means that the main threat will be the threat from surface carriers.
There is a solution
Thus, our opponents have already clearly demonstrated their willingness to harm the project, and the security of Nord Stream (both) cannot be left to chance. The risk of sabotage against Nord Stream 2 using uninhabited underwater vehicles at least does not look zero. What should Russia do in such a situation?
It would be worth creating a pipeline defense system. And not only the second line of the Nord Stream, but also the first - the interruption of any of them is fraught with the same problems for Russia.
The basis for such a system should be hydroacoustic equipment that allows detecting the use of UUVs. This equipment could be placed on surface ships, which could patrol the waters, at the bottom of which the pipeline lies. As a means of rapid response, one can consider a helicopter with a special unit on board, capable of quickly advancing to the area of the proposed operation of the NPA and detecting a vessel or carrier ship from the air.
It is hardly possible in this case to create a system that can prevent an attack in all cases. But it is quite possible to create a system for guaranteed interception of UUV carriers. This will create a reality for our adversaries in which they may be able to damage the pipeline, but absolutely cannot escape. And the operation against the Russian gas pipeline will definitely not be a secret. And this will make the operation technically possible, but politically impossible.
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“Remember the Maine!, "Remember the Lusitania" and don't start me on 12/7/41.
“FBI promises full investigation of Russia Collusion Hoax”
“CIA promises full investigation of Iraq WMDs.”
Etc etc etc.
The Maine was not sabotage, it’s boiler exploded, sinking the ship. This was not rare in the early days of ironclad steam warships.
But the sinking was blamed on sabotage to send America to war against Spain.
The pipeline attacks were deliberate sabotage.
Unlikely we’ll ever know with any degree of certainty; haven’t heard anybody mention the possibility of ecoterrorists yet; watch for future sabotage globally, if this is the case.
No pipeline for Russia removes possibility of negotiating with Europe.
Who steps in to save the day?
US of effin A...
This is Afghanistan 1980’s without the Mujahideen or Rambo
But the sinking was blamed on sabotage to send America to war against Spain.
The original “Fake News”.
Last I heard, they can be repaired in two weeks.
“NATO on Thursday said leaks from the Nord Stream gas pipelines appeared to be sabotage and vowed a “determined response”
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So this is how NATO gets itself into the war. I am truly starting to wonder how many times I have been fooled into a war narrative over the years.
Most people wont think any of this stuff thru but go along with the narrative.
Terrifying what may be coming.
But I keep going back to thinking about Green Energy. I thought Europe was doing just fine with their climate saving. Turn up the windmills. Didn’t they put sanctions on Russian Gas? So why then do they even need the pipeline? /S
And why aren’t people asking these questions?
Does "Determined Response" come before or after "sternly worded letter"?
Yes it was, my only point was that an accidental boiler explosion was turned into sabotage for propaganda.
In the case of Nordstream 1&2, it was pure sabotage from the start.
Nope. Not after they are filled with sea water. They are ruined.
As a long-ago frogman who has locked out of submerged submarines, ridden in mini-subs [SDVs], and practiced all kinds of underwater demolition, diving with air, mixed-gas and pure oxygen (for no bubbles), this article rings 100% true, right on target.
Please read it, and then you will know more about the Nordstream 1 & 2 pipeline sabotage than 99.9% of people.
Then please share it.
World War IV
Excellent
This should end well
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Are they going to attack Poland? The US? The UK??
Please see 54 and 56.
Or just read it posted here at 42.
Please see 54 and 56.
Or just read it posted here at 42.
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