Posted on 09/28/2022 2:37:22 PM PDT by Timber Rattler
The NY Times published this report today. The intercepts in question aren’t recent but come from back in March
(snip)
Still, the content of the calls reveal just how quickly the Russian offensive fell apart. A soldier named Sergey told his mother, “No one told us we were going to war. They told us the day before we left.” Another soldier told his partner, “I didn’t know this was going to happen. They said we were going for training. These bastards didn’t tell us anything.”
The soldier’s take on the attempt to take Kyiv was just as blunt. “We can’t take Kyiv.…We just take villages, and that’s it,” one solider said. Another said, “They just want to fool people on TV, like, ‘Everything is all right; there’s no war, just a special operation.’ But in reality, it’s an actual f**king war.”
Others complained about the equipment they had to fight with: “Everything here is ancient. It’s not modern like they show on Zvezda [state TV].” And as the weeks dragged on, they also complained about severe losses. “There were 400 paratroopers. And only 38 of them survived.…Because our commanders sent soldiers to the slaughter.”
The intercepts also include descriptions of incidents that would be war crimes. Speaking of a group of civilians, Sergey told his girlfriend, “We detained them, undressed them and checked all their clothes. Then a decision had to be made whether to let them go. If we let them go, they could give away our position….So it was decided to shoot them in the forest.”
“Did you shoot them?” his girlfriend asked.
“Of course we shot them,” Sergey replied.
(Excerpt) Read more at hotair.com ...
I don’t think it’s nice to eavesdrop
Give us this day, our daily propaganda
And forgive us our BS, as we forgive those who BS against us
And lead us not into gas-lighting
But deliver us from neocons
AMEN.
Who has the advantage in the winter?
There are all sorts of militaries and among them are those that train by marching around the parade grounds and those that train by trying to approximate the actual conditions in battle.
Which is closer to recent Russian practice given the results we’ve seen?
Frostbite.
No, seriously, the Russian generals apparently forgot about Ukrainian mud in only a few decades. If that’s the case why would we assume they have remembered anything else they learned over the previous century?
More CIA propaganda. I thought Putin was supposed to be dead by now.
You should have the phone calls home from my Basic Training course...
The map doesn't lie. But, the Biden regime, globalists and neocon numbskulls do.
https://www.reuters.com/world/ukraine-annexation-votes-end-amid-russian-mobilisation-exodus-2022-09-26/
ZAPORIZHZHIA, Ukraine, Sept 28 (Reuters) - Moscow was poised on Wednesday to annex a swath of Ukraine, releasing what it called vote tallies showing support in four partially occupied provinces to join Russia.
The Ukrainians, on their home turf.
Hey, are these Adam Schiff type recreations? I remember your NYTs there getting all exited about “reports” of Trump/Ukes phone calls. Another shovel full in the media masters feeding trough.
Yes, and we know they have no tourniquets, so why would we assume they are issuing extra socks, blankets, etc?
not good for either one.
So no Ukraine phone interceptions? Oops Ukraine has no phones in the front and has no voice since Zelensky crushed the opposition and made sure there’s no voice either.
“Of course we shot them,” Sergey replied.
There are reports of Russian commanders shooting their own troops because they got wounded that the commanders just didn’t want to have to deal with wounded soldiers.
Winter has the advantage in Winter. Neither side seems prepared for that. There might be some slight advantage for troops not moving.
Because everything that shines a dim light on Russia and Putin absolutely must be propaganda. Putin is your messiah - leading a nation that you yearn to be a part of - maybe even a restoration of fully USSR status! yes!! Great Commrade!
You literally describe Putin’s Russia with that - But hey - nothing like more pro-Puti man-crush propaganda (though 3/4 of it also describes the US)... thanks for making that abundantly clear.
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