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Did the US (or its agents) blow up the Nordstream pipelines? Thanks to an open threat issued by President Biden, the question must be asked
American Thinker ^ | 9/28/2022 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 09/28/2022 9:15:16 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Thanks to an open threat issued by President Biden, the question must be asked: is the United States behind the two explosions that caused a massive natural gas leak into the Baltic Sea? The incident has cut off Russia's ability to deliver methane gas to Germany and other European nations.

The release of methane into the water and atmosphere is killing marine life and delivering a greenhouse gas pollutant into the atmosphere that would be gravely feared by believers in man-made global warming. The word "eco-terrorism" comes to mind the describe the act of sabotage, if that's what the explosions were.

Powerful voices are blaming Russia.  According to the Washington Post, which frequently serves as an outlet for the Intelligence Community:

Five European officials with direct knowledge of security discussions said there was a widespread assumption that Russia was behind the incident. Only Russia had the motivation, the submersible equipment and the capability, several of them said, though they cautioned that they did not yet have direct evidence of Russia's involvement.

"No one on the European side of the ocean is thinking this is anything other than Russian sabotage," said a senior European environmental official, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal thinking about the leak.

One official said it might have been a message to NATO: "We are close." Another said that it could be a threat to other, non-Russian energy infrastructure, since so many pipelines crisscross the Baltic Sea, including the one inaugurated Tuesday. A third noted that crucial internet data cables lie along the bottom of the sea, and there have been long-standing concerns that Russia has a submersible program that could cut them, causing communications chaos around the world.


(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: nordstreampipeline; notthisagain; russia; sabotage; usa
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To: SeekAndFind

It was either the warmongering globalists here or the t-shirt-wearing tyrant of Ukraine.


21 posted on 09/28/2022 9:36:10 AM PDT by Arcadian Empire (The Baric-Daszak-Fauci spike protein, by itself, is deadly.)
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s better than the Nixon tapes.


22 posted on 09/28/2022 9:36:42 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

If things were reversed and Trump had said that he would shut down the pipeline, they would already be having an impeachment vote.


23 posted on 09/28/2022 9:36:42 AM PDT by farmguy
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Poland, the Baltics, Romania, well, most of Eastern Europe.
France. Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark and the UK. Some others that one can likely guess. A lot will publicly regret this action while being quietly pleased.

The effect of this is to end the German temptation to backslide over the next few months.


24 posted on 09/28/2022 9:37:00 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Jumper
The fact that the europeans were buying Russian gas and oil only serves to trigger the wokester’s in charge of the New Green Deal.

You may have put your finger on it. The greenie radicals in the Administration would happily trigger WW3 in hopes that it would further their population reduction agenda.

25 posted on 09/28/2022 9:37:55 AM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: cranked

I would imagine it is because BidenIdiot sometimes slips up and exposes the truth.


Well, there is the “...she was 12 and I was 30...”

But Russia invaded Ukraine, what, seven months ago. Why wait that long? And why such a clumsy effort? Yes, there are major holes in the pipeline, but the explosions were detected immediately.

And another likely dumb question. Is the gas still coming out? If so, why? Can’t, as many have stated, Russia simply turn the valves off?


26 posted on 09/28/2022 9:39:11 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: Arcadian Empire

It would be very cool if it were the Ukrainians. It is Russian state property (Gazprom). This is fair game for a nation at war, and legitimate vengeance for what Russia has done to Ukrainian infrastructure.


27 posted on 09/28/2022 9:39:27 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: SeekAndFind

Victoria Nuland, neocon headgirl, threatened the same thing some months back. They really aren’t making much of an effort to deny it.


28 posted on 09/28/2022 9:40:14 AM PDT by Blurb2350 (posted from my 1500-watt blow dryer)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

The whole Russian gas thing was actually driven by German “wokesters”. It enabled green whimsies, such as closing nukes, while still making it possible to still keep things running. Thats the German way of having your cake and eating it too.


29 posted on 09/28/2022 9:43:12 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: bk1000
Biden already said he’d do it.

No he did not. He did not ay he would blow it up. Good grief.

30 posted on 09/28/2022 9:44:56 AM PDT by Fury
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To: Blurb2350
Victoria Nuland, neocon headgirl, threatened the same thing some months back.

Good grief, no she did not. She did not say that the US would blow up the pipeline.

31 posted on 09/28/2022 9:46:29 AM PDT by Fury
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To: hanamizu

Maybe because it is an escalation in the tit-for-tat game inside Ukraine. Blow up my power plant, I blow up your pipeline. Also maybe because the Ukrainians were getting worried the Germans were backsliding and would be tempted into a separate deal with Russia.


32 posted on 09/28/2022 9:46:48 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: ClearCase_guy

“Seems pretty obvious that this Act of War was perpetrated by the USA.”

Seriously? The USA home of Superman, Truth, Justice and the American way would start a war? Seriously?
Oh Yeah.
Seriously, Lynden Baines Johnson concocted the Tonkin Gulf incident.


33 posted on 09/28/2022 9:47:02 AM PDT by Tupelo (Don't under estimate the Republicans ability to f*** things up)
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To: grimalkin
Christians believe that we are not warring against flesh and blood, but:

Ephesians 6:12

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

There has been a concerted effort to destroy the United States, especially since the election of President Trump.

Don't forget the anointing he received (twice) from fundamental preachers for God to guide and protect him.

Biden is in place to facilitate the devil's work and it's turning out just the way they like it (so far).

There is no doubt that shenanigans took place during the 2020 election, and the continued harassment since of every kind of Conservative (and often God loving/fearing) person involved with trying to fix, repair or make America better . . . . at LEAST bring it back to what we were just a few short years ago . . . . has been Governmently relentless.


Knowing our enemy is the whole point behind The Art Of War.

34 posted on 09/28/2022 9:47:33 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true . . . I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: MNDude

The FR warmongers will have a tough time spinning this one but I’m sure it will be that Putin himself took a mini-sub down there and blew these pipelines which were a major chip of leverage in this unfolding disaster.

Question: If a foreign power blew up the Alaskan Pipeline how would we react?


35 posted on 09/28/2022 9:47:42 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: Fury

Yes, actually, he did. Obliquely, but he definitely did.


36 posted on 09/28/2022 9:49:47 AM PDT by Avalon Memories (Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats. -- P.J. O’Rourke)
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To: sarge83

Question: If a foreign power blew up the Alaskan Pipeline how would we react?


That would be an attack on American soil. While Russia may own the pipeline, they don’t own the sea bed. Which brings up a point. Since the Baltic is on the small side, in which nation’s territory did the explosions occur?


37 posted on 09/28/2022 9:51:55 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: SeekAndFind
The release of methane into the water and atmosphere is killing marine life and delivering a greenhouse gas pollutant into the atmosphere that would be gravely feared by believers in man-made global warming.

I can't imagine that the pumps won't be shut off and the valves closed on the Russian side of things very soon, if not already. They're not just going to let all that gas go whooshing away for too long. Also, there's plenty of methane gas released naturally from the ocean floor. Some believe that's why the Bermuda Triangle is so dangerous - huge bubbles of gas.

38 posted on 09/28/2022 9:55:09 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Fury

“He did not ay he would blow it up. Good grief.”

First, I never claimed he said he would “blow it up”. He clearly said he would put a stop to it. The video was on Tucker two nights ago. Biden made no bones about it. Good grief to you, too!


39 posted on 09/28/2022 9:57:00 AM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: SeekAndFind
It would only make sense if a president wanted to provoke Russia into shutting down his own country's pipelines to restrict energy further. What president would be stupid and evil enough to do such a thing? Oh wait...



40 posted on 09/28/2022 9:57:40 AM PDT by ArcadeQuarters (Remember the 2020 backstabbers. No more RINOs ever!)
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