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To: ReaganGeneration2; Greetings_Puny_Humans
Reagan Generation2: "Again, we will only get proclamations, Knee-jerk 80s wisdom, and insults from your side, not thinking.
Call us Putinistas (we’re not) - but you all are pro-war, pro-Biden, pro-state-run media."

There's no logical reason for Putin to blow up his own pipeline except as a false flag to justify future Russian attacks on Western infrastructure.
Would Putin do such a thing?
Why wouldn't he, if that's what he wants to do?
And we'll learn soon enough if Russians use the incident to justify their own attacks on western infrastructure.

Last night Tucker Carlson pointed the finger of blame squarely at our own administration, based on their previous public statements.
I hope he's wrong because the act itself seems stupid to me, no matter who really did it.

As for who here is "pro-war, pro-Biden, pro-state-run media" -- nobody is.
Some of us still remember that in the years before December 7, 1941, something like 80% of Americans opposed going to "foreign wars" in Europe or Asia -- it's none of our business, they said.
After Pearl Harbor virtually 100% supported the US war effort, including such notoriously pro-Nazi pacifists as Charles Lindberg.
To win that war we allied with arguably the world's greatest, or second greatest, mass murderer, Stalin.
WWII is said to have killed around 75 million people, including nearly half a million Americans.

After WWII most Americans accepted that we shouldn't let things get to the point they were in December 1941 before we jump in to shut down the world's little Hitlers.
One result was "endless wars" that DJT rightly decried.
Trump understood that the way to prevent future wars is by economic & military strength supporting robust diplomacy.
Democrats take the opposite approach -- let's be economically & militarily weak, diplomatically sniveling and preoccupied with issues like "global warming" and "social justice".

Bottom line: regardless of all that, Putin needs to be stopped or we will see far worse in the future, from the likes of China, Iran & North Korea for starters.

30 posted on 09/28/2022 3:43:34 AM PDT by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: BroJoeK

Your justification for “endless wars” to prevent another Pearl Harbor and preempt millions of deaths is a bromide that can’t be argued down, proven or falsified. In short, there’s no limit to the “justified” interventions we could start, and did start, against every leader who does bad things, in every continent on the planet, until we are broke.

Do you think we have any money at all to keep up these paranoid interventions all over the planet earth?

After the last 20-30 years of lessons learned - Do you think you all should continue to believe the neocon, Bush-Cheney-Clinton-Obama-Biden’s and their media scribes?

Do you think defending Zelenskyy and, for example, his constant bombing of the Donbass for 8 years, are worth risking our own (or Europe’s) or the earth’s nuclear destruction?

Why not pour every single effort we have into peace negotiations?


32 posted on 09/28/2022 4:30:44 AM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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