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I'm a British patriot and I'd never shirk a fight. But as we edge closer to nuclear war, why ARE we stoking conflict in Ukraine rather than trying to achieve peace, asks PETER HITCHENS
Daily Mail ^ | 9/24/22 | PETER HITCHENS

Posted on 09/25/2022 5:07:37 AM PDT by JonPreston

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To: bert

So...you expect that toothless old crone to simply accept a final defeat without retaliating. To whimper and die submissively.

Ok, got it.


101 posted on 09/25/2022 2:17:29 PM PDT by citizen (Thieves of private property pass their lives in chains; thieves of public prop. in riches and luxury)
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To: Verdelet
So what is the truth then?

Is it

The Narrative™ about the 17 intelligence agencies who confirmed the Steele Dossier?
The Narrative™ declaring that Trump colluded with Russia?
The Narrative™ declaring that a white supremacist murdered innocent toddler Trayvon Martin?
The Narrative™ declaring that a white supremacist murdered "Hands Up Don't Shoot Michael Brown?"
The Narrative™ that a white supremacist murdered George Floyd?
The Narrative™ that HCQ is too dangerous to use?
The Narrative™ that Ivermectin is a dangerous horse dewormer?
The Narrative™ that that the clot shot is utterly harmless?
The Narrative™ that we are experiencing an epidemic of the unvaccinated?
The Narrative™ on the war?

102 posted on 09/25/2022 2:17:50 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: Verdelet
Would really like to know your opinion.

My opinion is that backing Russia into a corner is a mistake of apocalyptical proportions.

103 posted on 09/25/2022 2:20:21 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: All
Time for the "Powell Doctrine":

Is a vital national security interest threatened?

Do we have a clear attainable objective?

Have the risks and costs been fully and frankly analyzed?

Have all other non-violent policy means been fully exhausted? Is there a plausible exit strategy to avoid endless entanglement?

Have the consequences of our action been fully considered?

Is the action supported by the American people?

Do we have genuine broad international support?

One long-time FReeper refused to even consider the Powell Doctrine because he disagreed with Powell on a number of issues. The fact remains, the questions are valid.

104 posted on 09/25/2022 2:29:51 PM PDT by Fury
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To: Jeff Chandler
My opinion is that backing Russia into a corner is a mistake of apocalyptical proportions.
This.
105 posted on 09/25/2022 2:40:02 PM PDT by citizen (Thieves of private property pass their lives in chains; thieves of public prop. in riches and luxury)
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To: Fury

Answering those questions truthfully is negative to all.

I suppose our weapons manufacturers are pleased.


106 posted on 09/25/2022 2:42:54 PM PDT by citizen (Thieves of private property pass their lives in chains; thieves of public prop. in riches and luxury)
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To: bert

So did Bill Clinton and Joe Biden then.


107 posted on 09/25/2022 3:04:03 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Fury

All good questions I would think. Those running things at this moment are not interested in that doctrine.


108 posted on 09/25/2022 3:17:03 PM PDT by dforest
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To: JonPreston

Yes, beginning today in Italy.>>>>>>>

Meloni won.

https://www.reuters.com/news/archive/italy


109 posted on 09/25/2022 9:02:27 PM PDT by Candor7 (ObamaFascism:https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: BobL
The Hell you are Hitchens. You became an American citizen in the last year.

FU, you atheistic commie, take your poncey ass back across the pond.

110 posted on 09/26/2022 12:27:38 AM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots. )
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To: dforest

Certainly.

Don’t forget Donald Trump. He sanctioned Iran and North Korea heavily

America has laid out an awful lot of sanctions in the last several years

Both Iran and Russia are suffering te terrible economic consequences.

I believe that a decision was made that none of those sanctions could do much about it


111 posted on 09/26/2022 5:15:08 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day)
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To: citizen

No not exactly.

Mother Russia will whine and bitch and moan her lamentations but can not retaliate against the united front beating her down into submission. The opposition is massive

She is searching for an ally but is not finding one


112 posted on 09/26/2022 5:20:13 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day)
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To: Jeff Chandler

I didn’t know about 7 out of 10 these conspiracy theories. Thanks a lot!


113 posted on 09/26/2022 8:59:03 AM PDT by Verdelet (Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.)
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To: JonPreston

Bugaboo - an imaginary object of fear


114 posted on 09/28/2022 10:58:55 AM PDT by 55Ford
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To: JonPreston

Bugaboo - An imaginary object of fear.


115 posted on 12/10/2022 9:46:26 AM PST by 55Ford
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