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Putin's Army in shambles: Bungling officials try to recruit the DEAD to fight in Ukraine war - as Russians who have been forced into conscription drink themselves senseless
UK Daily Mail ^ | September 24, 2022 | Walter Finch

Posted on 09/24/2022 6:37:08 AM PDT by C19fan

Vladimir Putin's chaotic conscription of the Russian male population continues as more videos emerge of drunken insubordination and brawling by those being drafted into the Ukrainian meatgrinder.

Just days after the Russian dictator announced a partial mobilisation, the true reality of Putin's vicious war in the Donbas is evidently coming home to the desperate citizens of Russia, as thousands have received their call up orders.

Videos show reluctant conscripts at recruitment offices and staging points hitting the bottle and drinking themselves senseless as military commanders try to coral them into order before boarding buses and planes.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: 000spamspamspam; conscription; dailymail; globalistpropaganda; russia; ukraine
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

So when you call all this “propaganda,” you’re really just revealing how utterly clueless you are about how shitty Russia is.


LOL. So true. We are seeing the real Russia now but sadly some Putin loving eyes will never see it. They have constructed a fantastical version of Russia over many years and will never admit they are wrong.


81 posted on 09/24/2022 8:48:59 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: Reily

“Except for the uniforms by the rifles, they are carrying this could be the 1914 Russian army.”

Yes, take the car and billboard out of the picture, change the uniforms and that is 1914.

Don’t doubt that the picture is authentic, but hard to believe. Wonder if there is some explanation I don’t have?


82 posted on 09/24/2022 8:52:42 AM PDT by nomorelurker
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To: sport

The war will continue as long as the Democrats in the States can make money from it. The longer it continues, the more taxpayer dollars then ywill send over there. The more money sent, the more that can be skimmed off the top. The Neo Con Democrats will keep the war going as long as they are Americans and dollars to send over there. AS long as there is money to be stolen the killing will continue. The George Soros worshipers will demand it.


Interestingly, the Democrats denied Ukraine aid many times in 2021 and turned down the chance to make money. The reality is Democrats have cared very little for Ukraine since Putin started shooting in 2014. In fact Democrats have been partnering with Putin to bust Trump’s excellent middle east policies while the Soros EU financed Putin’s Russia.


83 posted on 09/24/2022 8:53:01 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: Kazan

The age of the United States’ Colossus is nearing its end. Uncle Sam will no longer have a pack of yipping European Yorkshires, Poodles and Dachshunds on a leash. I think we are on the threshold of a new multi-polar international order.


Now that is an unhinged rant to post on a conservative American website. Are you even American? Put your cards on the table.


84 posted on 09/24/2022 8:57:38 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: marcusmaximus; Reily; 17th Miss Regt
Ukie/West propaganda at its finest...😂😂😂


85 posted on 09/24/2022 8:57:48 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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To: lodi90

“...The reality is Democrats have cared very little for Ukraine since Putin started shooting in 2014...”

Yes, we must remember that non-lethal aid that the Obama admin provided. Helmets and such do no deter Russian aggression.


86 posted on 09/24/2022 8:58:55 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (To the barricades !!!)
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To: C19fan
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/09/will_ukraine_survive_intact_.html

Will Ukraine Survive Intact?

After Russia announced partial mobilization, which effectively doubled the Russian forces to be engaged in Ukraine, politicians, government officials, and analysts proclaimed that the action was a sign of Russian failure, weakness, and desperation. Be that as it may, the West once again has demonstrated aloofness from history and a refusal to face the reality that regardless of the amounts of weaponry, international sanctions, and billions in financial assistance, the West cannot defeat Russia. Hitler couldn’t do it. Embracing unrealistic expectations will inevitably lead to complete distraction and eventual dismemberment of Ukraine.

The war exposed Ukraine to two of her most critical vulnerabilities – questionable legitimacy and extreme nationalism. Legitimacy derives from acceptance and recognition. However, Ukraine’s neighbors Russia, Poland, and Romania do not accept their current borders with Ukraine.

After the First and Second World Wars, the borders of artificially created countries such as Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, and Ukraine were delineated to replicate the geopolitical engineering. So, when Ukraine proclaimed her independence, she did not proclaim her independence from Russia, Poland, and Romania’s territorial claims.

Indeed, the historical provenance of Ukraine is problematic. In a nutshell, before declaring independence in 1991, Ukraine had never been a unified state. What was to become Ukraine joined Russia in 1654 when Bohdan Khmelnitsky, a Hetman of the Zaporozhian Host, petitioned Russian czar Alexey to accept the Zaporozhian Host into Russia. The army and a small territory under Hetman’s control that Russians called “u kraine,” which means in Russian “at the edge;” the term originated in the twelfth century to describe lands on the border of Russia that were incorporated into Russia. The Zaporozhian Host administration was recognized as an organ of the Russian state.

After the Bolshevik revolution, Lenin in 1919 created the socialist state of Ukraine on part of the territory of the former Russian Empire. In 1922 Ukraine became Ukrainian People's Republic with the capital Kharkov within a newly created Soviet Union. The new territory included Donetsk, and Lugansk regions becoming Eastern Ukraine. In 1934 Kiev became the capital of the Ukraine Soviet Socialist Republic.

In 1939, as a result of the Nazi-Soviet Pact, Stalin annexed the eastern territories of Poland with the city of Lvov and incorporated them into Ukraine. In June of 1940, he annexed Northern Bukovina from Romania and merged it with Ukraine. In 1945 Hungarian Carpathian Ruthenia, nowadays Zakarpattia, was incorporated into the Soviet Union and added to Ukraine. Now these territories are known as Western Ukraine.

After the disintegration of the Soviet Union, Ukraine got its borders within which she achieved independence and millions of Russians, Poles, Hungarians and Romanians were trapped in a newly created country.

The Ukrainian problem is greatly exacerbated by the fact that unlike pluralistic societies such as the USA, Canada, Switzerland, and Russia, which are tolerant of different cultures, religions, and languages, Ukraine is not. Unsurprisingly, devotion to pluralism proved not to be her forte. Even though the Kiev regime had no historical roots in the real estate it inhabited, it imposed Ukrainian rules and the Ukrainian language on non-Ukrainian people after declaring independence. It is worth pointing out that even in the Soviet Union, where Russian was the official language, the Ukrainian language and literature were compulsorily studied by everyone in Ukraine.

As a result, pro-Russian sentiments – ranging from the recognition of the official status of the Russian language to outright secession – have always been prevalent in Crimea and Eastern Ukraine. Western Ukraine has always gravitated toward its Polish, Romanian, and Hungarian roots. Emphatically anti-Russian, Poland may not miss this strategic opportunity to re-acquire its land and avenge the humiliation inflicted by the Yalta Conference.

During the conference in Crimea in 1945, the leaders of the free world, Roosevelt and Churchill, legitimized the annexations by affirming Soviet ownership over the Polish and Romanian territories.

It was a cold-blooded betrayal for the Poles, who, unlike the Romanians who fought on the Germans’ side, suffered horribly under German occupation and heroically fought for independence. Roosevelt and Churchill destined the Poles to the horrors of Stalin’s mass-murdering tyranny for a half-century.

Hence, every time the Western leaders defend the territorial integrity of Ukraine, they reaffirm the immoral outcome of the Yalta conference. Western Ukraine does not belong to the Kiev regime, just as Eastern Ukraine is not Ukraine.

The West’s insistence on maintaining the status quo of the Ukrainian borders established by Lenin, Stalin and Hitler exposes the disconnect between strategic doctrine and moral principles. Indeed, Poles make no secret of their ambitions. Polish President Andrzej Duda, recently declared, “For decades, and maybe, God forbid, for centuries, there will be no more borders between our countries – Poland and Ukraine. There will be no such border!”

On May 22, Vladimir Zelensky announced that he would submit to the Rada a bill on the special legal status of Polish citizens in Ukraine. The bill grants Polish citizens unprecedented civil and political rights in Ukraine. It empowers Polish citizens with the right to be elected in Ukraine and apply for the position of judges, including constitutional judges. The agreement provides for integrating the security forces and law enforcement agencies. The Polish press calls it a "soft annexation" of Western Ukraine.

Romania is not far behind, especially in light of many inhabitants of former Northern Bukovina already carrying Romanian passports.

The territory of Ukraine is a mosaic of other people's lands. If we want to stop this insane war and ensure peace in Europe, instead of calling Russia’s sponsored referendum in Eastern Ukraine a sham, we should conduct an honest referendum in all the disputed territories under the auspices of the UN and let the people decide what government they want.

Woodrow Wilson, the architect of the principle of self-determination, would enthusiastically endorse the populaces’ desire, as he wrote: “National aspirations must be respected: people may now be dominated and governed only by their own consent.”

87 posted on 09/24/2022 8:59:57 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: mac_truck

Thanks, makes sense now.


88 posted on 09/24/2022 9:02:26 AM PDT by nomorelurker
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To: mac_truck; All

89 posted on 09/24/2022 9:03:58 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: StAnDeliver
Tendency and consistently are two very different things.
90 posted on 09/24/2022 9:05:53 AM PDT by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis )
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To: Monterrosa-24

Exactly. Obama sent blankets to Ukraine. Trump sent javelins and based his policies on kicking Russian corruption out of Europe. The truth here is obvious.


91 posted on 09/24/2022 9:15:41 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: mac_truck

Assuming Sergej is correct and not a Russian disinfo guy.
If cosplay, what Russian Army do they represent - the WWI army or a WWII army? The uniforms don’t seem to fit either era. I do know Mosin-Nagants were issued to the Red Army in WWII. I think toward the end it was eventually phased out. His use of the word cosplay is interesting does he mean re-enactment, and this is an example of a foreigner using English? It’s also interesting he uses the name Nagant-Mosin, not Mosin-Nagant which is how I have always seen it. Again, English misuse?

Independent of this I have seen pictures of both sides using these rifles. Apparently, a lot of them were squirreled away hidden from the KGB by both WWII and Bandera resistance movements. Magically rediscovered now!


92 posted on 09/24/2022 9:19:50 AM PDT by Reily
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To: marcusmaximus

Looks more like immobilization.


93 posted on 09/24/2022 9:20:39 AM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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To: nomorelurker

Very bad look...,

Could be they are simply being made to march with a heavier weapon.

Still very bad training.

Or it may be they are in that bad of shape.

Looks like they sent too many 7.62’s to the Houthi’s, Syria, Sudan, Libya, Iran.

I believe the Venezuelan version is jointly made in Venezuela, and then shipped to Peru, Nicaragua, Guatemala, El Salvador, Mexico, Cuba, etc, etc...


94 posted on 09/24/2022 9:21:04 AM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: C19fan
Bungling officials try to recruit the DEAD to fight in Ukraine war - as Russians who have been forced into conscription drink themselves senseless

They're too busy voting for Democrats.

95 posted on 09/24/2022 9:21:26 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Vaden

For lack of adequate insulated clothing, many will freeze to death in the brutal Ukraine winter. Unless their towns and relatives can raise money to buy them what they need to survive, and assuming it isn’t stolen before it gets to them.


96 posted on 09/24/2022 9:30:46 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: nomorelurker

Wonder if there is some explanation I don’t have?


Yes Russia is a dirt poor county. Where the Soviet-style military provides as little as possible - other than a uniform, WWII helmet, and rusty rifle. Everything else, including food, is optional or stolen by the officers. When they get to the Russian border, they will, like troops before them, sell everything for vodka.


97 posted on 09/24/2022 9:36:57 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: C19fan

daily mail propaganda is always good for a laugh!
hey troll, winter is coming


98 posted on 09/24/2022 9:50:08 AM PDT by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: C19fan

I read, years ago, that the Russian Army fighting in Berlin was completely professional and went out of their way not to harm women and children in Berlin.
When the battle was almost won, they were withdrawn and replaced with Uzbeks from Uzbekistan who did the slaughtering and raping.

Want to buy a bridge?


99 posted on 09/24/2022 9:55:44 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( FR is on GAB! https://gab.com/groups/67851)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
When the battle was almost won, they were withdrawn and replaced with Uzbeks from Uzbekistan who did the slaughtering and raping.

They must gave given them money and matches.

100 posted on 09/24/2022 9:57:05 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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