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1 posted on 09/21/2022 9:31:12 PM PDT by fluorescence
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To: fluorescence

And the railroad job picks up steam.


2 posted on 09/21/2022 9:32:22 PM PDT by Bullish (Rot'sa Ruck America. )
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To: fluorescence

Try bumping it up to the USSC.


3 posted on 09/21/2022 9:37:44 PM PDT by Revel
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To: fluorescence

The three judge panel at the 11th Circuit only included two Trump appointments. All three should have been at least Republicans.


4 posted on 09/21/2022 9:38:36 PM PDT by Round Earther
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To: fluorescence

Trump should of said the documents showing I de-classified all those files is in the 11,000 documents seized by the FBI. Ask the FBI/DOJ for those documents. If they cannot turn them over, then the FBI must of destroyed them. After all it would not be the first the the FBI lied to the court.... 🤣🤣🤣


6 posted on 09/21/2022 9:40:29 PM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting)
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To: fluorescence

I’m well past the point of being tired of losing ...


8 posted on 09/21/2022 9:59:23 PM PDT by CatOwner (Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021 and beyond.)
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To: fluorescence
The former president, the judges continued, "has not even attempted to show that he has a need to know the information contained in the classified documents." The judges also said there is no evidence in the record before them that the roughly 100 documents at issue were declassified.

In short, the 11th Circuit just ruled that Trump has no standing to litigate the issue of papers lawfully kept in his house. Arguably, simply the act of the POTUS in removing them from Washington, D.C. made them declassified. Trump needs to choose better judges in his next term as POTUS.
10 posted on 09/21/2022 10:07:11 PM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: fluorescence

By order of his most exalted excellency Barack Obama:

“Sec. 1.7. Classification Prohibitions and Limitations.
(a) In no case shall information be classified,
continue to be maintained as classified,
or fail to be declassified in order to:
(1) conceal violations of law, inefficiency, or administrative error;
(2) prevent embarrassment to a person, organization, or agency;
(3) restrain competition; or
(4) prevent or delay the release of information that does not require protection in the interest of the national security.”

“Part 3 - Declassification and Downgrading
Sec. 3.1. Authority for Declassification.
(a) Information shall be declassified as soon as it no longer meets the standards for classification under this order.
(b) Information shall be declassified or downgraded by:
(1) the official who authorized the original classification, if that official is still serving in the same position and has original classification authority;
(2) the originator’s current successor in function, if that individual has original classification authority;
(3) a supervisory official of either the originator or his or her successor in function, if the supervisory official has original classification authority;”

“Sec. 3.2. Transferred Records.
(a) In the case of classified records transferred in conjunction with a transfer of functions, and not merely for storage purposes, the receiving agency shall be deemed to be the originating agency for purposes of this order.”

“Part 4 - Safeguarding
Sec. 4.1. General Restrictions on Access.
(a) A person may have access to classified information provided that:
(1) a favorable determination of eligibility for access has been made by an agency head or the agency head’s designee;
(2) the person has signed an approved nondisclosure agreement; and
(3) the person has a need to know the information
....
(d) Classified information may not be removed from official premises without proper authorization.
(e) Persons authorized to disseminate classified information outside the executive branch shall ensure the protection of the information in a manner equivalent to that provided within the executive branch.”

“Sec. 4.2 Distribution Controls.
(a) The head of each agency shall establish procedures in accordance with applicable law and consistent with directives issued pursuant to this order to ensure that classified information is accessible to the maximum extent possible by individuals who meet the criteria set forth in section 4.1(a) of this order.”

https://www.archives.gov/isoo/policy-documents/cnsi-eo.html


11 posted on 09/21/2022 10:07:58 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: fluorescence

I think President Trump can request that the decision be made by the whole court...all eleven of them, just not three.


15 posted on 09/21/2022 10:35:08 PM PDT by Maris Crane
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“we cannot discern why[Trump] would have an individual interest in or need for any of the one-hundred documents with classification markings”

Trump sent warriors into battle.

Some were killed.

Some of these warriors killed people.

Trump needs to retain proof that his orders were correct.

Politics is a vicious business.

You can’t reasonably use as a basis of an argument that there is no document describing his declassification order and then promptly say he doesn’t need to retain documents.


17 posted on 09/21/2022 10:43:15 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: fluorescence
My impression continues to be that all the Mar-a-Lago classified documents relate to the Russia Hoax.

It is also my understanding that Trump, during his last week in office, de-classified numerous Russia Hoax records, and ordered the DOJ, by written directive, to publicly release them.

Unfortunately, I never hear Trump or his lawyers even mention the Russia Hoax connection when the Mar-a-Lago Raid is being discussed in the news.

What the heck is going on?

19 posted on 09/22/2022 2:58:28 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: fluorescence

Is there anywhere that one can read a untainted accounting of what TF the illegitimate government is doing to President Trump?


20 posted on 09/22/2022 4:14:37 AM PDT by Recompennation (Don’t blame me my vote didn’t count so mee s)
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To: fluorescence

CBS sure does love to report on this story whenever things aren’t going Trump’s way. And they sure are silent when it does go Trump’s way.


25 posted on 09/22/2022 5:44:08 AM PDT by lowbridge ("Let’s check with Senator Schumer before we run it" - NY Times)
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To: fluorescence

The entire justice system is starting to look like an eyeball in a lava lamp.
Option two: A magic 8 ball shake it until you get the answer you want.


30 posted on 09/22/2022 9:05:55 AM PDT by Vaduz ( )
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To: fluorescence
"For our part, we cannot discern why[Trump] would have an individual interest in or need for any of the one-hundred documents with classification markings," Judges Robin Rosenbaum, Britt Grant and Andrew Brasher said. "Classified documents are marked to show they are classified, for instance, with their classification level."

The former president, the judges continued, "has not even attempted to show that he has a need to know the information contained in the classified documents." The judges also said there is no evidence in the record before them that the roughly 100 documents at issue were declassified."

That's a hell of a mistake (and a Ratchet-sized word salad) by the Appeals mandarins. That is simply "unclean hands" inverted, the failed key thrust the DOJ attempted on Trump at District level:

SCOTUS is going to surprise these 11th hour scumbags, and either enforce Cannon's Order expressly or remand for modification, while tacictly approving the Special Master to continue his work.

31 posted on 09/22/2022 9:40:37 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)
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