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Ukraine War Planned YEARS AGO Documents Reveal
The Jimmy Dore Show via Youtube ^ | 9/21/22 | Staff

Posted on 09/21/2022 7:56:03 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...

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Last I recall, Putin invaded Ukraine. If you consider the paper prior planning a response to Putin’s invasion of Ukraine you’re an idiot. If you don’t think Russia (and China) have been gaming this for decades you lack the intelligence of an idiot. “This report examines a range of possible means to extend Russia. As the 2018 National Defense Strategy recognized, the United States is currently locked in a great-power competition with Russia. This report seeks to define areas where the United States can compete to its own advantage. Drawing on quantitative and qualitative data from Western and Russian sources, this report examines Russia’s economic, political, and military vulnerabilities and anxieties. It then analyzes potential policy options to exploit them — ideologically, economically, geopolitically, and militarily (including air and space, maritime, land, and multidomain options). After describing each measure, this report assesses the associated benefits, costs, and risks, as well as the likelihood that measure could be successfully implemented and actually extend Russia. Most of the steps covered in this report are in some sense escalatory, and most would likely prompt some Russian counter-escalation. Some of these policies, however, also might prompt adverse reactions from other U.S. adversaries — most notably, China — that could, in turn, stress the United States. Ultimately, this report concludes that the most attractive U.S. policy options to extend Russia — with the greatest benefits, highest likelihood of success, and least risk — are in the economic domain, featuring a combination of boosting U.S. energy production and sanctions, providing the latter are multilateral. In contrast, geopolitical measures to bait Russia into overextending itself and ideological measures to undermine the regime’s stability carry significant risks. Finally, many military options — including force posture changes and development of new capabilities — could enhance U.S. deterrence and reassure U.S. allies, but only a few are likely to extend Russia, as Moscow is not seeking parity with the United States in most domains.”


81 posted on 09/22/2022 6:44:13 AM PDT by willfulknowledge
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To: Its All Over Except ...

It was planned just like the Scamdemic was planned. So far it is doing a nice job of depopulation and mass misery.


82 posted on 09/22/2022 6:50:22 AM PDT by dforest
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To: DonaldC

We are talking plans not war games.


83 posted on 09/22/2022 6:51:24 AM PDT by dforest
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To: dfwgator

Oh, one from the State Department and two from the DOD.


84 posted on 09/22/2022 6:57:34 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: adorno

Post some other sources other than your own opinion or at least claim it as your opinion.


85 posted on 09/22/2022 6:58:13 AM PDT by dforest
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To: dljordan

“Moronica For Morons”


86 posted on 09/22/2022 6:58:29 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: nickcarraway

Oh really? How about a link for that comment?


87 posted on 09/22/2022 7:00:43 AM PDT by dforest
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To: dforest
Post some other sources other than your own opinion or at least claim it as your opinion.

When it comes to Putin, what he says is what he means, if he can get away with it. He did mention many times how breaking up the Soviet Union was the most horrible thing that could have happened, and he has expressed his desire to reconstitute the Soviet Union. I shouldn't have to find a link for you regarding Putin's words. That's what the internet is for and hopefully you're capable enough to do your own search.
88 posted on 09/22/2022 7:06:53 AM PDT by adorno
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To: adorno

That isn’t any proof. It is an interpretation made by you . I am not speaking of many years ago. I am speaking of since last February,

He did not say he intended to keep going beyond Ukraine. You just said he says what he means.


89 posted on 09/22/2022 7:09:52 AM PDT by dforest
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To: DannyTN

Yes, and other nations do it too.

It’s truly amazing to find folks this ignorant, and proud of it trying to jin
this up into a grand conspiracy. “Yep the US planned this all along. We
Knew it!!!!!!!!”

We have war gamed every nation on the planet, and just about every adult
knows it and understands why.

Then there’s the insult neocon. It’s a word that applies to people who
support their adventuresome government when it starts dubious foreign
Wars..

The U.S. didn’t invade another nation and its troops are not fighting in one.

Those who call the supporters of the Ukraine neocons, can’t even
grasp that the Ukraine didn’t invade another nation either.

The stupidity of these people is astounding and it’s a group, all
supporting a Hitler like invasion of a foreign sovereign nation,
and trying to annex it. That would be the textbook definition of a
neocon, if it were their nation, but then most of them seem to
have seemed to adopt Russia as their nation, hating their own.

From there it falls apart further.


90 posted on 09/22/2022 7:39:11 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which stands.)
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To: adorno

“The Ukraine war was planned at the same time that the plans for taking Crimea were drawn.

And, the plans for taking Ukraine also included taking other countries after Ukraine had been absorbed into the new USSR (soviet Union).

Putin was not going to stop with Ukraine. He was planning on rebuilding the old Soviet Union. But, oops!, Ukraine was having none of it. Lucky for the world. Not so lucky for the FR members who continue to cheer for Putin’s ambitions.”

You know jack sh!t on what Russia’s plans were and are.

But it does not stop you from waxing pure dumb ass about your fantasy.


91 posted on 09/22/2022 8:22:06 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner
You know jack sh!t on what Russia’s plans were and are. But it does not stop you from waxing pure dumb ass about your fantasy.

Understanding the enemy is the first step towards stopping him/her/them.

Those who refuse to learn from the lessons and mistakes of history are bound to repeat the mistakes without the lessons having any influence.

The enemy does not rest.
92 posted on 09/22/2022 8:31:13 AM PDT by adorno
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To: dforest
That isn’t any proof. It is an interpretation made by you . I am not speaking of many years ago. I am speaking of since last February,

Putin did not start with Ukraine, and started with a part of Ukraine named Crimea. He wasn't going to stop there. Those who can't see beyond the immediate now, will eventually find that the enemy was counting on that blindness.

He did not say he intended to keep going beyond Ukraine.

Just like Hitler intended to stop after his first conquest of another nation. Dumb!

Understanding the enemy is the first step towards stopping him/her/them.

Those who refuse to learn from the lessons and mistakes of history are bound to repeat the mistakes without the lessons having any influence.

The enemy does not rest.
93 posted on 09/22/2022 8:39:40 AM PDT by adorno
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To: adorno

Poopin himself talked of realizing his dream of becoming
Peter the Great II.

His generals popped off on Moldova, Poland, Latvia, Estonia,
Finland, and Sweden.

Russian speakers were needing help in Moldova.

Poland wasn’t a valid country.

Latvia and Estonia are members of NATO.

Sweden and Finland want to join for some unknown (/s)
reason.

Yeah, it’s just you making stuff up.

We’re talking third grade level ability to take information
in and make a valid conclusion.

Vlad had plans. His generals knew them. The Ukraine was
not the full plan.


94 posted on 09/22/2022 9:58:12 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which stands.)
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To: DannyTN

So Crimea wasn’t Russian when Catherine the Great traveled there to view her realm ?


95 posted on 09/22/2022 10:38:12 AM PDT by A strike (LGBFJRoberts)
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To: A strike

Seriously?

Catherine the Great ruled in the 1700’s. The people who live in Crimea now were part of Ukraine for 60 years. All of their lives for the majority, most of their lives for the rest.

If you’re going to go that far back in history, you should go back to the Greek settlements in the 3rd century.
Or give it to the Romans who took it from Greece.


96 posted on 09/22/2022 10:48:50 AM PDT by DannyTN
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“Seriously?” Well, yeah seriously.

Crimea was Russia from 1700’s ‘til in 1954 when ukraine born Kruschev declared it part of the Ukraine SSR which he assumed to be permanent.
Hardly the same as going back 1800 years. Crimea was never Ukraine before then.
Duh mmm


97 posted on 09/22/2022 1:35:47 PM PDT by A strike (LGBFJRoberts)
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To: patriotfury

What is it you don’t get, we’re not dying for you anymore and neither are our kids.


98 posted on 09/22/2022 3:03:51 PM PDT by Lurking4atime
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To: Lurking4atime; Zhang Fei; familyop; Paul R.; SaveFerris; Mark17; marcusmaximus; Kronos

“What is it you don’t get, we’re not dying for you anymore and neither are our kids.”



You are absolutely hilarious person...

And living with a truly sad but hilarious historical delusion.

Only a self absorbed ignorant leftist mind could so blatantly deny the reality and context of the past, present, or future.

But don’t you worry, the US and it’s God loving, liberty loving, and true patriotic citizen class will soon be gone, and you can live in your new Marxist totalitarian slave fantasy.


The well written and globally circulated goal of Communist Internationale, the Supreme Soviet, and of the Soviet Union was a single global Communist government.

The reason we didn’t have a kinetic hot war with the Communist USSR is precisely because of both M.A.D., and as four separate panel’s of Soviet generals revealed to us over a period of just over a decade, they had less than a 50/50 chance of surviving a CCCP offensive to capture all of Western Europe to the West coast of France and Europe, which is what they had long planned and wargamed.

The reason the hard core Chinese Communist CCP Politburo (with an assist from Russia’s current Pacific Fleet) hasn’t erased or taken absolute totalitarian control of all East Asain and Western Pacific nations, (even if not in print for public consumption) is precisely the same > M.A.D., and knowing they would be so weakened, their own Communist totalitarian government and state would implode.

In other words, depending on where you are actually writing from (regardless of which leftist org may be paying you), again, the reason your precious children are alive or not enslaved, is either because you haven’t been taken over by a Communist totalitarian state or authoritarian dictatorship, or because your precious godless Communist totalitarian state or authoritarian dictatorship has been afraid to attack the US and it’s allies, as they would receive an overwhelming response they very well might not survive. 🇺🇸🇮🇱🎚


“Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”

(Benjamin Franklin, 1755)


“Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!”

(Patrick Henry, Second Virginia Convention, St. John’s Church, March 20, 1775)

🇺🇸🇮🇱🇺🇦🎚


99 posted on 09/22/2022 4:39:13 PM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: Lurking4atime; All

Hmmm... joined FreeRepublic TODAY, just to make a false and stupid argument about one of my responses!

That is 100% awesome!

What level of historical illiteracy and naivety could possibly have been the inspiration...?


100 posted on 09/22/2022 4:52:02 PM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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