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That's not a real job opening: Some companies are posting 'ghost jobs' but don't actually plan to hire you — or anyone
MSN ^ | 9-18-22 | Rebecca Knight, Juliana Kaplan

Posted on 09/18/2022 10:19:14 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes

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To: Tired of Taxes

NON-CITIZENS cannot legally hold a job in USA. NOT ELIGIBLE under Form I-9.


61 posted on 09/19/2022 7:49:42 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Tired of Taxes

If he changed his name to Jill, he’d get multiple offers


62 posted on 09/19/2022 7:51:43 AM PDT by 38special (I should've said something earlier)
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To: Tired of Taxes

i always had two different resumes tailored to two different fields

use a temp agency for experience


63 posted on 09/19/2022 8:39:21 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: ridesthemiles
NON-CITIZENS cannot legally hold a job in USA.

You can if you have a green card or a work visa.

64 posted on 09/19/2022 8:46:55 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: 38special
If he changed his name to Jill, he’d get multiple offers

Only if "Jill" is young and attractive. It gets difficult to find work after a certain age.

65 posted on 09/19/2022 8:48:48 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Mathews
I get at least three calls per week from recruiters and double that in emails. I have no idea what this guy is talking about.

It probably depends on what you do for a living. You must have the skills and experience that employers want.

66 posted on 09/19/2022 8:53:36 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: SamAdams76
Often the same "person" applies for every open position in my company, which tells me that person is either blindly sending his resume to every open position or that person does not have any idea what he wants to actually do.

So then, the shotgun approach (sending applications out for everything) does not look good to hiring managers. I wonder how many job applicants are making that mistake.

67 posted on 09/19/2022 9:31:24 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Young STEM majors might have an easier time finding work.


68 posted on 09/19/2022 9:35:20 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Tired of Taxes

Ghost postings are used to check the box that there has been a search for qualified candidates and someone to fill the job has already been selected. It is a protection against EEO action or to tick the box of internal postings when the decision has been made to promote from within.

Some jobs just go unfilled because HR is stalling for some reason.

A young friend thinks he has broken the resume screen algorithm by including verbatum, the job advert in micro font in the footer of the resume in no color. That resume goes to the top of the pile until others begin doing the same thing.

If you can somehow find a place where the manager is the hiring agent and you can get an interview by virtue of personal connections you may get a job.

A lot of outfits are short handed by their own inaction. Some people on the inside like it that way.


69 posted on 09/19/2022 9:40:07 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.)
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To: Tired of Taxes
The shotgun approach is definitely not a good look if you are applying for multiple jobs in the same company. It would be one thing if they were fairly similar jobs but when you apply for a technical position, a sales position and a warehouse position all at once, it throws up a flag.

I can't say enough for the approach of actually travelling to the place of business and handing them your resume in person. People get hung up on the fact that they need to have an interview first. Not the case! Just get in the car and go there. If anything, you will get a good sense of the commute, the neighborhood and the company itself.

Just let the reception desk know that you are in the area and would like to drop off your resume. It's a good way to find out who the hiring manager is while you're there (in case it wasn't in the listing). Then you can go home and write a personal letter or email to that hiring manager, letting them know you have already dropped by. That will almost certainly leave a positive impression. And if it doesn't, or if the reception people are very cold to you, it's probably not a company you'd want to work for anyhow.

If you get really lucky, the hiring manager might be around and can see you immediately for an impromptu interview and maybe give you a tour of the facility, so you should be dressed professionally.

70 posted on 09/19/2022 9:52:24 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (4,085,372 users on Truth Social)
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To: SamAdams76

Dropping-by with a resume might work. The reason most people don’t want to try it is that, nowadays, most employers have a “Don’t Call Us, We’ll Call You” way of thinking. They want us only to submit an application online. Then, they don’t want to hear from us. If we follow-up with a phone call, they become annoyed and say, “If we’re interested, we’ll contact you.”


71 posted on 09/19/2022 10:46:37 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Tired of Taxes
You make a good point about submitting the application online. Companies need those online applications these days as most of them automate and even outsource their recruiting and on-boarding processes. It's also how they ensure they are in compliance with all the affirmative action type crap out there and no company with a decent HR department wants to run afoul of that and get the company in legal hot water.

So while I continue to say that delivering a copy of your resume in person is a nice touch that will almost certainly differentiate you from the rest of the pack, you should certainly still go ahead and fill out the online application. Hiring managers will need that done before they can schedule a formal interview.

72 posted on 09/19/2022 10:58:20 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (4,085,372 users on Truth Social)
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To: Fai Mao
Not necessarily so.

An ex co-worker moved to Jacksonville and wanted to work in a specific field (tech). He looked up the best candidates in the vicinity and went to each one personally and applied for a position, some not even hiring at the time.

He managed to get in to one of his choices and that employer wasn't even listing a job opening at the time. The gentleman who hired him called me as I was listed as a referral, and explained to me how my ex co-worker was going about finding his next job.

Perhaps not a viable option for many, but it is not necessarily a waste of time.

73 posted on 09/19/2022 11:43:05 AM PDT by Pox (Eff You China. Buy American!)
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To: Chickensoup

The Quebecois are the ‘sainted’ in True-dolt’s Canaduh. English Quebecers, just ‘maudit anglais’. All this in spite of True-dolt’s mother being ‘h’anglais’ and his father’s mother also being ‘h’anglais’.


74 posted on 09/19/2022 11:52:07 AM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian ( Ceterum autem censeo Justinius True-dope-us esse delendam)
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To: Tired of Taxes

Companies have always done this just to see what’s in the market if for no other reason. Anybody who’s been in the consulting world has seen this for a long long time.


75 posted on 09/19/2022 1:21:33 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: fuzzylogic

I have an MBA. I went through an extremely awful time during the Great Recession. It sure didn’t help me then. I’m doing pretty well now, cut of course I have another 10 years’ worth of experience now.


76 posted on 09/19/2022 1:33:47 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: cgbg

I work as a consultant (yes with an MBA LOL!) in banking.

I had a devil of a time during the Great Recession and was driven into dire poverty. I tried all the things this guy in the story is trying - I applied for all sorts of jobs. Nothing. It was just a pure waste of time.

Those who suggested cutting and pasting certain key words and phrases into their resume are correct. That’s definitely a good idea.

I work almost totally through headhunters now. Most of the headhunters who call me are Indian and its very rare that anything ever comes from dealing with them. They just look for jobs, do a keyword search of resumes and then call you up and plug your info into the job application.

What has been productive for me has been working with the same headhunters I’ve worked with for years....usually local to the market. They have actual connections to the hiring managers in the companies and have every incentive to send them good candidates rather than duds. If you do a good job after they place you a couple times, they know you’re solid and they’ll keep placing you with other roles.

Also, I’ve worked mostly with the same few banks. After they hire you and you do a good job, you can cite this manager and that one etc in their bank who you worked for before. They’ll just contact a few of those managers and after getting assured that you’re a solid worker, they’re happy to have you. Once one or two big banks hire you, others figure your solid and they’ll hire you.

BUT....it was absolute hell breaking in. It took me YEARS before anybody would give me one freaking chance in this industry. My experience in other industries was apparently worthless (this industry tends to be very snobby that way). To anybody who thinks I have it good now, you have no idea how many chit sandwiches I had to eat before finally getting to where I am.


77 posted on 09/19/2022 1:47:44 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: FLT-bird

Sorry to hear that....but yes, you might have just a few years experience and then an MBA can take you places. It’s where you have very little or no experience when it gets ignored.

Glad things are better :)


78 posted on 09/19/2022 1:50:14 PM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: maddog55

I recently did an info interview for a job that pays significantly less than my old one. Given what I’ve read in this thread, and given that I’m nearly 2 months unemployed, if I’m offered this job, I will simply take it. There’s no need for putting myself through unnecessary suffering.


79 posted on 09/19/2022 1:50:33 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (FBI out of Florida!)
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To: central_va

Let me add: The company takes a regular job (audit, accounting, etc etc) and tries to make it sound as technical as they possibly can. Then they claim that Americans don’t have the technical expertise for it. Then they go hire an H1b Indian and dangle the potential of a green card in front of them and pay them 40% less than it would cost to hire an American.

I saw that about 1/4 of the giant office towers at the big banks were filled with H1b Indians even during the height of the Great Recession when tons of highly qualified Americans were absolutely dying to get a decent job. That pissed me off royally.

Then, the companies run screaming to congress that they need yet more cheap labor....because gosh darn it, there just aren’t any Americans with the skills you see........


80 posted on 09/19/2022 1:51:55 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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