Posted on 09/18/2022 4:59:54 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
Its funny how all the neocons claim Ukraine is fighting for its “independence” from Russia - when its obvious the country is a completely controlled, corrupt and manipulated satrapy of the US Deep State and NATO.
“Revealed: How the US and UK Stopped Peace Deal in Ukraine”
The US and UK Neocons were not about to let a bloodbath in Ukraine get in the way of their effort to ‘weaken Russia’.
Putin himself blew off peace talks both ahead of, and at the very beginning of his invasion of Ukraine in February.
*Discussion” since then has demanded UA forever give up both land, disarm, and esentially promise to remain separate from the West and within the CIS subordinate sphere.
This is akin to a leftist type psyop bumper sticker, and of what is yet a very real Putinist/Xi/Ali axis —
Stop the war; I want to get off.
The report in question has been posted at Free Republic before: The World Putin Wants by Fiona Hill
"According to multiple former senior U.S. officials we spoke with, in April 2022, Russian and Ukrainian negotiators appeared to have tentatively agreed on the outlines of a negotiated interim settlement: Russia would withdraw to its position on February 23, when it controlled part of the Donbas region and all of Crimea, and in exchange, Ukraine would promise not to seek NATO membership and instead receive security guarantees from a number of countries."
Wiki on Fiona Hill: a British-American foreign affairs specialist and academic. She is a former official at the U.S. National Security Council specializing in Russian and European affairs. She was a witness in the November 2019 House hearings regarding the impeachment inquiry during the first impeachment of Donald Trump. She was awarded her Ph.D. in history from Harvard University, and currently serves as a Senior Fellow at the Brookings Institution in Washington. She is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission.
Both of them adjust to promote the ever changing Russian narrative, while pretending they were right all along by selectively qualifying what they said previously.
There's also the Reuters report that Zelensky offered Putin the guarantee that Ukraine would not join NATO, Russia agreed, then dropped it right before the invasion (Insider).
Amazing that the two most obvious Russian shills and spin doctors are considered credible by the conservatives now.
It wasn't even a Reuters report. It was a Foreign Policy article that the pro-Russia crowds accepts as gospel, even though the authors qualified that statement, and then selectively ignored the rest of what it had to say about Putin (all bad!). This is it:
The World Putin Wants: How Distortions About the Past Feed Delusions About the Future
It's an exercise in cherry-picking what they want to hear and ignoring the overall context of the article.
See my #27 above to Widget. The quote in question is cherry-picked and taken out of context from the entire article-at-large, which is highly critical of Putin.
“The report in question has been posted at Free Republic before: The World Putin Wants by Fiona Hill.”
How do you know that? The article makes no such declaration. Besides, Fiona Hill has been roundly criticized and lambasted by conservatives as being untrustworthy (remember the first Trump impeachment?).
So, are you one of those who say Hill was untrustworthy then, but is trustworthy now?
You sound like you subscribe to fidelity only if it suits your purposes.
“See my #27 above to Widget. The quote in question is cherry-picked and taken out of context from the entire article-at-large, which is highly critical of Putin.”
That’s what they do: Cherry-pick and take things out of context to advance their agenda.
...the hands of the Biden regime.
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Which, while incredibly sticky with the blood of others and eager to grab off whatever is available within the detritus, are being directed from elsewhere.
Undoubtedly, a portion of Biden’s 10% is funneled to the instigators, as is a portion from each oligarch/crypto-oligarch involved. We know who they are by their appearances in Ukraine, their supportive statements elsewhere and their personal donations to Ukraine.
Everything we are experiencing, in addition to this war and the ones being fomented at the peripheries of Russia, have as their goal maximum chaos.
We are living in a civilization-changing period. It is The Extinction of the Dinosaurs, The End of The Bronze Age, The Fall of Rome, Henry the VIII’s appropriation of the church assets/power, the depopulation of the Black Death, The Little Ice Age, and every other climactic, militaristic, and epidemic change that has survived in our current understanding of history. ALL of these catastrophes are happening either at once or in close series.
The perpetrators are playing for all the marbles and do not intend to allow the majority of individuals nor any sovereign independent state to survive.
The collective angst is being restrained by these tribal divisions of political party, nationalism, fear of an over-hyped illness, faith in an equally over-hyped inoculation and terror at the approach of an energy-scarce, food-scarce, security-deficient season. While this is occurring, the monetary system is being destabilized in preparation of programmable electronic currency. The Panopticon is being constructed around us as we watch.
If those inculcated divisions could be set aside and the same energy directed against the Neo-Feudalists , we, the people, could end this horror.
Vlad doesn’t want peace. He wants piece of the action.
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Putin _and_ Ukraine wanted peace.
NATO and the Atlanticists refused.
Just the fact that their refusal obliterated negotiations ought to tell you who is to blame, at least on that level of power, for the continuation of war.
It is Pelosi who scurried to Armenia after Armenia petitioned Russia for assistance and a cease-fire was declared.
You ‘wise up’. Your own passions are being harnessed in support of the Neo-Feudalists to assist them in the annihilation of _all_ of humanity and the destruction of a civilization.
You will gain nothing if Ukraine *wins*. Neither will Ukraine.
Putin is the enemy of the destruction. No, he is not a saint. Yes, he’s used destructive means in his resistance. The very fact that he is attacked as a human being in the exact same way as Trump is so attacked indicates the West either has purchased elements of the Russian ruling elite, controls some through blackmail and will not even worry if the next Russian leader is a super-hawk who will nuke Brussels. The more expended in blood, treasure, and soil, the better to accelerate the civilizational collapse.
Russia is marked for total regime change by the globalists. Every other nation is being directed or provoked to participate. Europe and America are occupied, as is Canada and the Pacific Anglo-sphere. They are industriously sending all the assets of those nations to the ultimate would-be planetary rulers. Every other nation has or is in process of joining together to oppose the globos.
Does that tell you nothing? Any survivors may well call it Global War I. It will make the two previous *World Wars* look quaint.
Rather than cheer one’s favorite gladiator and virtuously shout for the head of another, look outside that particular stadium and direct all that energy where is might accomplish something positive for the world.
They are obviously passing out on Cash.
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The Rockefeller Foundation, the UN, and a DNC NGO named DemCast have PUBLICLY announced they are fielding 250k propagandists to *counter* anything against the ‘Sainted Ukraine” narrative.
Your post exemplifies their approach.
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