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Criminal possession of a ... musket? New gun laws throw a wrinkle into an old tradition
The Buffalo News ^ | September 12, 2022 | Maki Becker

Posted on 09/18/2022 6:42:24 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

he Angelica Civil War Re-enactment was supposed to return to the village in Allegany County this month, following a two-year hiatus because of Covid-19 restrictions.

But organizers announced last weekend that it's been canceled again.

They blamed New York's new gun laws which they interpret to mean that period re-enactors carrying muskets could be charged with a felony.

"Black powder weapons are not excepted from this ban. Possession of a firearm in public is now a felony," a message posted to the re-enactment group's Facebook page Sept. 4 said. "After obtaining a legal opinion, it was determined that we could not continue with holding the event this year. Participants could be subject to arrest."

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At the beginning of September, a new set of gun laws went into effect in New York. Among them are new restrictions on where guns can be carried. The legislation was passed this summer in an emergency session after the U.S. Supreme Court struck down New York's longstanding concealed carry law which required permit seekers to explain why they needed to be able to carry a firearm. Under the new laws, the state now prohibits handguns, shotguns and rifles in a wide list of "sensitive locations" which range from schools, government buildings and courts to parks, churches and sidewalks and other public areas where permitted events are taking place.

That's now considered an E level felony, the lowest level felony which technically can carry a sentence of up to four years in prison.

(Excerpt) Read more at buffalonews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: New York
KEYWORDS: banglist; firearms; historical; muskets; newyork; reenactments
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To: FreedomPoster

So, does someone have to be prosecuted under this law to get the ball rolling?


21 posted on 09/18/2022 7:48:06 AM PDT by gundog ( It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: Spok

“Civil War infantry didn’t, as a rule, carry muskets; they had rifles.”

For the first two years of the war, both sides were equipped mainly with 69 caliber smooth bore weapons. Either 1842 pattern or 1816 pattern converted to percussion. As late as 1864 some union units still carried the 69 caliber weapons.
In the Confederate army some units surrendered at Appomattox were carried smoothbores 69s.


22 posted on 09/18/2022 7:55:13 AM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: Timber Rattler

I thought liberals argued that only muskets are protected by the 2nd Amendment!


23 posted on 09/18/2022 7:56:18 AM PDT by sjmjax
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To: glorgau

Just to pull on your comment a bit, does anyone here expect state and local LEOs to enforce this stupidity or not?

In my opinion, there are more than enough Dirty Cops looking to enforce this with extreme prejudice. Be Careful Friends!


24 posted on 09/18/2022 8:06:05 AM PDT by OHPatriot (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Timber Rattler

The Second Amendment magnifies the brilliance of our founding fathers. What if instead of saying “the right to bear ARMS,” they had written the right to bear muskets instead? After all, the musket was the weapon of choice at that time. If they had made this mistake, the Second Amendment would have been absolutely useless today. Did they have divine guidance during their deliberations? I think so.


25 posted on 09/18/2022 8:11:50 AM PDT by Saltmeat (69)
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To: Timber Rattler

Guess they could carry short 2X4’s and shout “Bang” or would that be illegal or offensive?


26 posted on 09/18/2022 8:36:36 AM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting)
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To: gundog

That’s the rub right there.


27 posted on 09/18/2022 8:44:16 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Timber Rattler

Unlike most other anti-2nd Amendment states, NY decided to defy the Supreme Court’s ruling by passing more anti-gun legislation.

While they can no longer require applicants to provide a reason for concealed-carry permit, they have added all kinds of new requirements including inspection of social media accounts looking for wrong thought.

And they’ve outlawed the possession of firearms in most public places.


28 posted on 09/18/2022 8:53:06 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: Timber Rattler

Low capacity mags not permitted.


29 posted on 09/18/2022 8:58:23 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (No more rhyming, and I mean it.........)
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To: Timber Rattler

Ve musst disarm ze people completely!


30 posted on 09/18/2022 9:05:04 AM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: FreedomPoster

I’m guessing they won’t prosecute too many street thugs. Or, if they do, a minor felony conviction isn’t going to bother them too much.


31 posted on 09/18/2022 10:01:51 AM PDT by gundog ( It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: Saltmeat

[The Second Amendment magnifies the brilliance of our founding fathers. What if instead of saying “the right to bear ARMS,” they had written the right to bear muskets instead? After all, the musket was the weapon of choice at that time. If they had made this mistake, the Second Amendment would have been absolutely useless today. Did they have divine guidance during their deliberations? I think so.]


Not divine guidance. Common sense. They were preserving a right to own military weaponry. And weapons have evolved since the beginning of time.

The foundational ideas of the republic spring from Republican Rome. Without non-obselete weapons of war, the Republic cannot be preserved from its internal enemies. The Roman Republic that had driven out its last king centuries prior finally fell to another king, Augustus Caesar. A big part of the destruction of the Republic and its reversion to kingship had to do with the institution of a large standing army. It was the Founders’ hope that a well-armed populace would prevent a similar outcome for the American Republic, by presenting a worthy counter to such an army.


32 posted on 09/18/2022 10:24:25 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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