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1 posted on 09/14/2022 6:25:00 AM PDT by JonPreston
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I don’t see what the big deal is. Both the Roman Empire and the British Empire felt the need to intervene everywhere. And those empires did just fine.

Oh, wait. Those costly interventions hastened the collapse of both of those empires. Maybe we should learn a lesson from that (but we won’t).


2 posted on 09/14/2022 6:30:54 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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The Dive With Jackson Hinkle

Zelensky is hiding the truth in Ukraine

https://youtu.be/MnK7viGoDbw

English-speaking NATO troops in Kharkiv?

The justification for this by neocons, if true, would be “Putin mean, Russia bad” akin to Clinton saying “Slobo mean, Serbia bad” or Obama saying “Gaddafi mean, Libya bad” to justify NATO involvement in those countries, which was against their defensive charter they attacking offensively and especially so since neither Serbia nor Libya attacked a NATO member.

Others have reported similar to this.

Leaked Ukrainian docs from a while back reported on all over the net said Ukraine had lost 50% of its regular, trained troops, a higher percentage than Russia, so they’re spent and recent successes may be due to others efforts.

Sad.


3 posted on 09/14/2022 6:31:21 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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Wow - denigrating the United States going all the way back to the Founding of the country. That's a worldview generally held only by hard-left anti-Americans. I mean, your stats include things like the mission to kill bin Laden, fighting Hitler, and resisting the British in the War of 1812.

In any case, when was the last time the U.S. invaded another country for the expressly stated purpose of permanently annexing its territory?

5 posted on 09/14/2022 6:34:25 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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Fell asleep with the television on and woke up with JFK on, right in the scene where Sutherland and Cosner are on the bench in DC, and I can't remember so I'm paraphrasing but the phrase was ' the defining purpose for government is to go to war'
7 posted on 09/14/2022 6:34:53 AM PDT by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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Forever War is how they enslaved America.


10 posted on 09/14/2022 6:38:11 AM PDT by WMarshal (Neocons and leftards are the same species of vicious rat.)
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In early to claim that, at least, the forward-deployed, Preble-powered bloody nose we handed to the musselman Barbary Pirates in the 18 oughties was totally justified.


18 posted on 09/14/2022 6:49:12 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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The last intervention will be when they come for US.


19 posted on 09/14/2022 6:50:43 AM PDT by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.)
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...the vast majority of which were unnecessary and did not involve a vital national interest of the United States.

Colonel, USAF JAGCR (ret)


21 posted on 09/14/2022 6:58:47 AM PDT by jagusafr ( )
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Foreign Intervention - Key & Peele

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7BCZCWlvEc


24 posted on 09/14/2022 7:06:56 AM PDT by packagingguy
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Don’t forget Antarctica! Operation Highjump.


26 posted on 09/14/2022 7:12:10 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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Thanks for posting this.


31 posted on 09/14/2022 7:50:32 AM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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Right we’ve got US troops in Russia and China

Nice try


35 posted on 09/14/2022 8:40:49 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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First off, the US is not an empire: we haven't expanded to incorporate external territories since the 19th century. The closest parallel is perhaps Rome in the Republican period without the annexations, where the Romans would declare external political entities "federates" or "allies" of the Roman people, with cash to support the current regime and the implicit threat of intervention by the legions should the other entity face external threats or the pro-Roman faction be overthrown by an anti-Roman one.

The eastward expansion of NATO is a good example: we had a lot of foot dragging by the US and Western Europeans over their accession, while they clamored to get in.

With the exception of some gunboat diplomacy in China before WWII, since WWI the US has only used its armed forces when it or its allies were attacked or when a regime deemed to be a threat by allying itself with the Soviet Union came to power. With the exception of direct attacks such as Iraq's invasion of Kuwait and 9/11, such interventions have almost ceased since the Cold War ended. Leftist, anti-American regimes have come to power in Latin America without US intervention because without the Socviet

Second, for the most part it was not imperial overstretch that broke up the Roman or British Empires but involvement in peer or near-peer conflict. The Romans were exhausted by the need to maintain a huge military force to counter simultaneous growing threats on the Rhine, Danube and Persian frontiers. Similarly, Britain exhausted itself with two world wars fought within the same half-century. And with the Soviet Union supplying weaponry to colonial movements, the military costs of empire increased dramatically after WWII.

The main problem with current American leadership is that, having insulated themselves successfully from the economic and electoral impact of their own mistakes, the American 'republic' is saddled with a despotic, incompetent and utterly corrupt government.

37 posted on 09/14/2022 8:48:43 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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We've become the world's bully and use our power to primarily for the benefit of our corrupt political class and oligarchs like George Soros and those in the WEF.

What a disgrace we've become to the legacy of great leaders like Ronald Reagan, whose foreign policy objectives were to free others in the world from tyranny.

39 posted on 09/14/2022 9:17:21 AM PDT by Kazan
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"US launched 251 military interventions since 1991, and 469 since 1798"

Darn those jet airplanes!

44 posted on 09/14/2022 12:01:15 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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