Posted on 09/11/2022 12:49:48 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19
no need for “negotiations” you simple, pack up and take your commie butts back to your country, and it’s over!
An armistice would stop the killing.
It is easier to achieve as no side has to give up any right or claim.
Better idea would have been for Russia to declare an armistice 30 seconds into the invasion. Nobody dies, and no land changes hand. Seems like that would have been much more fair.
Ukraine loses most of its seacoast, from Mikolaiev to Mariupol. Thats a crippling and long term blow economically.
Status quo ante bellum might be acceptable, but that means the Russians have to leave a lot of territory.
Nothing new.
Ukraine-Russia Peace Talks Resume (April 01, 2022)
https://www.voanews.com/a/ukraine-russia-peace-talks-resume-/6511366.html
Diplomacy Watch: Did Boris Johnson help stop a peace deal in Ukraine?
...The decision to scuttle the deal coincided with Johnson’s April visit to Kyiv, during which he reportedly urged Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to break off talks with Russia for two key reasons: Putin cannot be negotiated with, and the West isn’t ready for the war to end.
As was once said about the PLO & Israel, it would be so much simpler if the two parties just compromised. Israel wants a peace and the PLO wants Israel dead & gone!
Same with Russia & the Ukraine! Russia wants the Ukraine dead & gone while the Ukraine wants a secure peace! Unfortunately, Tsarvetch Putin appears to be unwilling to allow anyone west of the German Border that liberty!
Oops, I meant ‘to the EAST of the German Border’ in the above!
Another take *cough* from the Hill *cough*...
‘US, UK Sabotaged Ukraine-Russia PEACE DEAL In April: Aaron Maté Breaks Down Report’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWuZp1iq72Q
Yeah, but then the Uke Nazis will resume their 8 year artillery attacks on the Donbass areas that went independent.
They lost that coast after the 2014 coup decided to conduct ethnic cleansing and artillery attacks for 8 years against the Donbass. They really needed to get the Svoboda militias out of Kiev though. The last thing you need is a thug militia standing around watching you.
So now that coast is gone... forever.
They lost that coast in this war.
BS about Donbass. That was Russian propaganda that even the Russians gave up on.
Exactly.
There’s your complications.
I haven’t seen any credible report where Russia says they want all ukraine
Have you seen one?
“no need for “negotiations” you simple, pack up and take your commie butts back to your country, and it’s over!”
Yup.
“Status quo ante bellum might be acceptable, but that means the Russians have to leave a lot of territory.”
That would leave Crimea as part of Russia. I don’t like it, because it rewards Russian aggression (which began back in 2014), but it may be the eventual outcome.
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