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PETER HITCHENS: Why our Head of State, not the spin-doctored politicians who so many of us revere, is the TRUE defender of our freedom
DailyMail.com ^ | 9/10/2022 | Peter Hitchens

Posted on 09/11/2022 6:55:14 AM PDT by Nextrush

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To: jmacusa

I’m not trying to be argumentative with you. The systems of government are VERY different.

There is no 2A in the UK, because as you point out, there is no equivalent to the US Constitution or its Bill of Rights.

Our system of government was largely founded by looking at English government and deciding what we did NOT want to have. Americans, I think rightly - as one, cannot get their minds around being a “subject” of royalty. Hitchens, to my thinking, did a good job of explaining the role of royalty in the British system. He further showed how both systems are under the same assault and how the monarchy has worked to defend individual Liberty in the British system.

America has chosen its own solution - I think a better one. But both need a defense of the individual.


21 posted on 09/11/2022 11:00:55 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

Britons were armed at one time, a long time ago.


22 posted on 09/11/2022 11:10:07 AM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots. )
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To: jmacusa

I think they went through Feudalism, too.

I’m glad we haven’t had that, yet.


23 posted on 09/11/2022 11:14:00 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

Also “awe & deference “ to people who run with a ball, knock people down, sing\dance & pretend to be other people !


24 posted on 09/11/2022 11:20:49 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

This certainly isn’t the America I grew up in. 66 years old and all I see now is an America I don’t recognize anymore.

Perhaps it’s the memory of what happened here 21 years ago on this day. Just not feeling ‘’it’’ today, optimistic that is. Sorry. But thank you for your well informed posts.


25 posted on 09/11/2022 11:22:35 AM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots. )
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Not that long ago when one considers the march of history.
Once every yeoman was required to put in a number of hours a week practicing with the long bow.


26 posted on 09/11/2022 11:23:37 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Reily
It was common for retired British Army officers to keep their Webly Revolvers. That thing was a cannon alright.
27 posted on 09/11/2022 11:28:14 AM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots. )
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To: jmacusa

I am not quite as old as you, but I don’t recognize much anymore, either.

I don’t watch current TV as it has no connection to me. I have to use FR for news. It’s the same as you can get elsewhere, but there is some filtering and sane analysis.

I think of 2021 as worse than 9/11. We gave up the best President in my lifetime for the shit-filled sewer that we are swimming in, now. The enemy is stronger than ever.

Stay safe.


28 posted on 09/11/2022 11:36:24 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: Nextrush

Very nice article. Thank you.


29 posted on 09/11/2022 11:43:00 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: jmacusa
"Britons were armed at one time, a long time ago."
I remember reading in one of the 18th Century novels (Tom Jones?) that the local lord of the manor disarmed his tenants to keep them from poaching "his game."
30 posted on 09/11/2022 1:03:05 PM PDT by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: Nextrush

Charles has never had a clue. Don’t expect him to scrape a
few up now. He’s a disaster teetering over a cliff, with
the royal family tied to his foot.

If the royal family survives him in tact, he will not be
responsible for it. Prince William probably would be.

At least with William, there’s some prospect of sanity
ahead. No offense to Queen Elizabeth II or her consort,
but Charles has always reminded me of a perfect poster
boy for inbred royalty.

May his reign be as long as his existing intelligence.

Some things, are in very short supply these days.


31 posted on 09/11/2022 1:10:36 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which stands.)
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"...someone has to think of, and speak for, the deep foundations. That is what the Coronation—the only such ceremony now surviving in the Western world—reminds us of. Its great oaths, sworn in beautiful, ancient English, remind us of the Christian foundation of our society. Much of the praise of the late Queen has skated over this part of her life, mentioning her faith but not discussing it, let alone engaging with it. But it was utterly central to everything she did—not least the way she almost entirely suppressed her own enjoyment and desires, for the sake of others."

32 posted on 09/11/2022 6:49:25 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free... Galatians 5:1 )
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To: Jess Kitting

Stuffy pride in the American Revolution aimed sneeringly at our most reliably allied nation over the past century or more is as backwards to me as the POC’s tiresome unforgiveness over the institution of slavery that was being extinguished around that same time.

None of us owns slaves, nor was a slave. None of us fought either with the Redcoats or with Washington’s army.

We are longtime NATO partners with the UK, and why should it bother anyone that Hitchens writes of his own country with depth and respect? Forms of governance notwithstanding, his point that our Founding religion is the animating force of Western freedoms applies to us as well as to them.


33 posted on 09/11/2022 7:04:31 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free... Galatians 5:1 )
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To: Empire_of_Liberty
Our system of government was largely founded by looking at English government and deciding what we did NOT want to have.

Our legal system, however, relied heavily on English common law and Blackstone's Commentary on the Laws of England, which, in turn, drew heavily on Christian ideals.

A Review of Sir William Blackstone and the Common Law: Blackstone’s Legacy to America

34 posted on 09/11/2022 7:12:10 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free... Galatians 5:1 )
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To: Albion Wilde

“Stuffy pride’’?

Throwing off the chains of an autocratic, degenerate monarchy half a world away at a time when such a thing was unheard of is ‘’stuffy pride’’?

For Christ’s sake we had to chase these people out of here twice so we could become a nation. A nation that bailed out the Brits out in two world wars, both of which we wanted no part of and they did their level best to get us into.

Hitchens can write about his beloved monarchy all he wants in his own country.

I don’t need to hear about it in mine.


35 posted on 09/11/2022 10:32:04 PM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots. )
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To: Reily

The longbow was the Javelin missile of it’s day. I believe it’s made from the wood of the yew tree(sp?).

Very hard wood but very flexible.


36 posted on 09/11/2022 10:34:12 PM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots. )
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

‘’shit filled sewer we’re swimming in now’’

Indeed. The only thing my wife and I use the tv for is for watching British crimes shows or dvds of “Perry Mason’’ or “Combat’’.

I use FR for news and when I mention some of what is really happening in the world to friends and co-worker I’m met with raised eyebrows looks of
incredulity and “Where did you hear that?!’’
Then I tell them about this website.


37 posted on 09/11/2022 10:39:20 PM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots. )
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It's remarkable how many Americans believe that the status of 'subject' still exists in the UK: presumably, reasonably enough, because that's what's taught in schools about the events of the 1770s.

Whereas in reality 'subject' lost the last vestiges of any constitutional or legal meaning in the 1949 Nationality Act, but de facto at least a century before that.

The only occasions you encounter the term here in Britain are in the archaic language of formal state occasions, retained, along with the pantomime costumes, mainly for the entertainment of overseas tourists (especially Americans!)

It's otherwise meaningless.

38 posted on 09/12/2022 1:43:18 AM PDT by Winniesboy
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To: jmacusa

That’s why when skeletons of English long bowman are found they have one arm massively overdeveloped. It’s like their longbow training turned them into human fiddler crabs.


39 posted on 09/12/2022 6:06:36 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Nextrush

-—Can he survive?-—

Now that is the question? He is 73 so it is likely he will serve for a good while.

Will he be accepted? That is a different question altogether.

He will never be accepted by Labor. He must be a good King to be accepted and respected by the Tories


40 posted on 09/12/2022 6:12:35 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day)
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