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Ukrainian Officials Drew on U.S. Intelligence to Plan Counteroffensive
The New York Times ^ | September 10, 2022 | Julian E. Barnes and Helene Cooper

Posted on 09/10/2022 5:49:27 PM PDT by Timber Rattler

Senior Ukrainian officials stepped up intelligence sharing with their American counterparts over the summer as they began to plan the counteroffensive that allowed them to make dramatic gains in the northeast in recent days, a shift that allowed the United States to provide better and more relevant information about Russian weaknesses, according to American officials.

Throughout the war, the United States has provided Ukraine with information on command posts, ammunition depots and other key nodes in the Russian military lines. Such real-time intelligence has allowed the Ukrainians — who U.S. officials acknowledge have played the decisive role in planning and execution — to target Russian forces, kill senior generals and force ammunition supplies to be moved farther from the Russian front lines.

But earlier on, American intelligence officials said they often had a better understanding of Russia’s military plans than of Ukraine’s. Concerned that sharing their operational plans could highlight weaknesses and discourage continued American support, the Ukrainians were closely guarding their operational plans even as American intelligence was gathering precise details on what the Kremlin was ordering and Russian commanders were planning.

But as Ukraine laid its plans to strike back against the Russians, senior leaders in Kyiv decided that sharing more information with the United States would help secure more assistance, American officials said.

Senior U.S. officials declined to say how much details from the counteroffensive plan Ukraine had shared and how much advice the United States had offered. But one official said Americans had “constantly” discussed with Kyiv ways that Ukraine could blunt the Russian advance in the country’s east.

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To: Alas Babylon!


Best post on this thread!

idiotic

ukranians are friends of the bidens, enemies of Patriots.

wake up!


41 posted on 09/10/2022 7:36:13 PM PDT by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: PGR88

Just wait for what.

Russia had a TERRIBLE week. Putin needs to just take the L and move on with his life screwing his country like he screws gymnaists.

We aren’t sending troops to Ukraine. Ukraine is doing fine without our troops. They can drive trucks and punch in GPS coordinates better than our guys, anyway.


42 posted on 09/10/2022 7:39:41 PM PDT by UNGN
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To: UNGN


Ukraine is doing fine without our troops.

the fake media koolaide is delicious, isn't it?


43 posted on 09/10/2022 7:42:03 PM PDT by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: tlozo

#23 is good, really good.


44 posted on 09/10/2022 7:42:57 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: UNGN


Putin needs to just take the L and move on with his life screwing his country like he screws gymnaists.

he does pretty well with hideous America-hating "women" basketballers though...


45 posted on 09/10/2022 7:51:29 PM PDT by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: 867V309

The Ukrainian people were caught in the middle of a proxy battle between our CIA (though USAID/Obama’s Fabians) and Russiaphile Putin puppets in Ukraine.

The CIA won that proxy battle (they often do because they sell Obama style “Hope”), Putin got pissed and invaded (making it a real battle) which you can do if you don’t have a corrupt military run by kleptocrats... so his plans for a 2 week war failed miserablbly.

Then Ukraine then asked for our help. If you want to destabilize the world, fuck with a country for 10+ years (we’ve fucked with about all of them) and then when that country gets attacked... BECAUSE you were fucking with it... turn your back on it when they ask for help.

We poked Putin, but the Invasion is all on him. We owe it to the Ukrainian people that if they chose not to become 2nd class Russians, we are obligated to give them the tools not to become second class Russians.

If We don’t, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Moldova, Poland and Finland are all in Putin’s Crosshairs. Making this a quagmire for Putin is the best plan. (look how many Rah! rah! kill Muslims! now sound like Cindy Sheehan... because quagmire)

The Ukraining people ARE patriots, They are fighting to Be Nationalist Ukrainians... with AK-74’s they are not giving up anytime soon.

Yes, we need to NOT be meddling in countries in the Future, but the meddling here happened under Obama. The takeaway is don’t elect Democrat Presidents.

If Ukraine falls to Russia, the Media will blame Trump. Guaranteed. Good thing that isn’t going to happen, despite what paid RT mouth pieces like Scott Ritter are saying.


46 posted on 09/10/2022 8:05:43 PM PDT by UNGN
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To: 867V309

The Ukrainian people were caught in the middle of a proxy battle between our CIA (though USAID/Obama’s Fabians) and Russiaphile Putin puppets in Ukraine.

The CIA won that proxy battle (they often do because they sell Obama style “Hope”), Putin got pissed and invaded (making it a real battle) which you can do if you don’t have a corrupt military run by kleptocrats... so his plans for a 2 week war failed miserablbly.

Then Ukraine then asked for our help. If you want to destabilize the world, fuck with a country for 10+ years (we’ve fucked with about all of them) and then when that country gets attacked... BECAUSE you were fucking with it... turn your back on it when they ask for help.

We poked Putin, but the Invasion is all on him. We owe it to the Ukrainian people that if they chose not to become 2nd class Russians, we are obligated to give them the tools not to become second class Russians.

If We don’t, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Moldova, Poland and Finland are all in Putin’s Crosshairs. Making this a quagmire for Putin is the best plan. (look how many Rah! rah! kill Muslims! now sound like Cindy Sheehan... because quagmire)

The Ukraining people ARE patriots, They are fighting to Be Nationalist Ukrainians... with AK-74’s they are not giving up anytime soon.

Yes, we need to NOT be meddling in countries in the Future, but the meddling here happened under Obama. The takeaway is don’t elect Democrat Presidents.

If Ukraine falls to Russia, the Media will blame Trump. Guaranteed. Good thing that isn’t going to happen, despite what paid RT mouth pieces like Scott Ritter are saying.


47 posted on 09/10/2022 8:05:43 PM PDT by UNGN
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To: UNGN


ukranians are MUCH BETTER OFF as 2nd class Russians than 1st class bidens.


48 posted on 09/10/2022 8:13:25 PM PDT by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: 867V309

They won’t be Bidens. They’ll all own Assault weapons with 30 round magazines.

As 2nd class Russians, that will be THE FIRST thing Putin takes away.


49 posted on 09/10/2022 8:17:47 PM PDT by UNGN
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To: 867V309

They won’t be Bidens. They’ll all own Assault weapons with 30 round magazines.

As 2nd class Russians, that will be THE FIRST thing Putin takes away.


50 posted on 09/10/2022 8:17:47 PM PDT by UNGN
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To: UNGN


They won’t be Bidens.

biden won't allow any more freedom or dissent there than he does here. zalenski is his puppet just like biden is his masters puppet.

YOU DON'T GET IT, DO YOU?


51 posted on 09/10/2022 8:23:49 PM PDT by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: Timber Rattler

NATO E3-Sentry spy plane just made another appearance and is circling andwatching the Kherson region right now from Romanian air space.


52 posted on 09/10/2022 8:28:09 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus


NATO E3-Sentry spy plane just made another appearance and is circling andwatching the Kherson region right now from Romanian air space.

whoopee!!

another useless war!


53 posted on 09/10/2022 8:31:04 PM PDT by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: 867V309

Ukraine and NATO preparing to finish off Putin’s VDV on the right bank of the Dnieper and shape next weeks pushes to Kherson city and Nova Kakhovka Russian telegram channels have been in a panic all day today over their impending doom in Kherson.


54 posted on 09/10/2022 8:39:04 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: 867V309
biden won't allow any more freedom or dissent there than he does here. zalenski is his puppet just like biden is his masters puppet.

That is some 1D checkers and isn't how the world works.

Biden will be gone in two years or less. Zelesky, too. Look how quickly Churchill was jetisoned.

The Deep state lost control of Ukraine when Putin invaded.

The Peace/love/flowers in the streets/community organizer hopium infussed passive Ukraine is gone, and will be replaced by the mega Chad AK-74 toting giant killer Nationalist Ukraine that will be MUGA after they are done quagmiring Russia.

With a Republican President, Ukraine could be another "Nope" vote in Europe against the globalists like Poland, Hungary or the Baltic states.

When the Globalists get a wake up freezing this winter, others may join the clique.

55 posted on 09/10/2022 8:40:43 PM PDT by UNGN
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To: marcusmaximus


Ukraine and NATO preparing to finish off Putin’s VDV on the right bank of the Dnieper and shape next weeks pushes to Kherson city and Nova Kakhovka Russian telegram channels have been in a panic all day today over their impending doom in Kherson.

you actually BELIEVE that crap.

ha!


56 posted on 09/10/2022 8:43:18 PM PDT by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: 867V309

Putin really screwed his VDV in Kherson. Particularly in the west. No where to run. No artillery support since last Monday.


57 posted on 09/10/2022 8:47:49 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: UNGN


The Deep state lost control of Ukraine when Putin invaded.

The Deep state gained total control of Ukraine when Putin invaded and they became dependent on biden

biden IS Deep state!

have you lost your mind?


58 posted on 09/10/2022 8:47:59 PM PDT by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: Timber Rattler

Planning via JOPES.


59 posted on 09/10/2022 9:01:57 PM PDT by cranked
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To: 867V309

1D Checkers.

Is Q not posting tonight or something.

Ukraine is in flux right now and is not controlled by anybody.

Biden doesn’t even control his own bodily functions. Blinken is an incompetent idiot. Biden’s Deep state” is a bunch of clueless clowns that F-up everything they touch.

Again, when mega chad Ukraine alpha comes back from the front and a state department weenie starts telling him the proper pronouns he has to use, he’ll point the AK-74 at him and calmly say, “no”.

Ukraine’s Covid Vaccination rate is less than 40%. People Pushing Globalist solutions to their problems are going to receive considerably pushback. They are the type of people we can work with.


60 posted on 09/10/2022 9:15:37 PM PDT by UNGN
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