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Former top Pentagon officials warn of "extreme strain" on civilian-military relations
Axios ^
| 2022-09-06
| Ivana Saric
Posted on 09/06/2022 2:51:00 PM PDT by Salman
The U.S. is experiencing an "exceptionally challenging" environment for the relationship between military and civilian parts of society, a large group of former Pentagon leaders warned in an open letter published Tuesday.
Why it matters: The letter, which cited political polarization and other social changes, was signed by eight former defense secretaries and five former Joint Chiefs chairmen from both Republican and Democratic administrations.
Among the signatories were two of former President Trump's defense secretaries, Jim Mattis and Mark Esper.
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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: deepstate; jimmattis; markesper; military; tyranny
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People in the USA are realizing it's no longer "our" military, and the realization goes both ways.
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posted on
09/06/2022 2:51:00 PM PDT
by
Salman
To: Salman
We know the leadership is “woke”.
But I wonder when TSHTF will some of the front liners be on our side?
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posted on
09/06/2022 2:52:47 PM PDT
by
nascarnation
(Let's go Brandon!)
To: nascarnation
Extreme strain = lack of trust
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posted on
09/06/2022 2:55:27 PM PDT
by
Starboard
To: Salman
Mattis did this
Military staff can never ever ever criticize the CIC.
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posted on
09/06/2022 2:56:52 PM PDT
by
stanne
To: stanne
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posted on
09/06/2022 2:57:32 PM PDT
by
sauropod
(Unbelief has nothing to say. Chanece favors the prepared mind.)
To: Salman
Sounds like ramping up the excuses to deal with the citizens.
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posted on
09/06/2022 2:58:55 PM PDT
by
CatOwner
(Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021 and beyond.)
To: Salman
Among the signatories were two of former President Trump's defense secretaries, Jim Mattis and Mark Esper.
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(What they do?)
(They smilin' in your face)
All the time, they want to take your place
The back stabbers (Back stabbers)
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posted on
09/06/2022 2:59:39 PM PDT
by
Alas Babylon!
(Rush, we're missing your take on all of this!)
To: Salman
None of this crap was going on, at least on this level, before the Kenyan f**got took office. The whole freakin' government on every level including the military is "fundamentally transformed" and that b*tch is living like a King. There's a reason the founders did not want foreign born as POTUS and he WAS foreign born. When his own grandmother, own brother says he was and Obama himself was going around Harvard saying he was, it's hard to think they were all kidding.
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posted on
09/06/2022 3:00:23 PM PDT
by
GrandJediMasterYoda
(As long as Hillary Clinton remains free, the USA will never have equal justice under the law)
To: GrandJediMasterYoda
If Obama only had a father.
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posted on
09/06/2022 3:01:58 PM PDT
by
magua
(It's not racism, it's just that thisBecause it’s being reported that a lot of this started in 2015.)
To: CatOwner
Yep. Once the Marxists control the military, it’s all over. This is why I pray every night that we take the midterms and 2024 and we get some real conservatives in office to clean out this sh*t because we are heading light speed towards a full blown tyranny.
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posted on
09/06/2022 3:05:07 PM PDT
by
GrandJediMasterYoda
(As long as Hillary Clinton remains free, the USA will never have equal justice under the law)
To: magua
If 0bama only had a brain (song from Wizard of Oz).
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posted on
09/06/2022 3:06:26 PM PDT
by
SkyDancer
( I make airplanes fly, what's your super power?)
To: GrandJediMasterYoda
.
It’s already happened.
Vindman and Milley were telling other countries to ignore Trump.
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posted on
09/06/2022 3:06:35 PM PDT
by
AnthonySoprano
(Statute of Limitations is going to elapse on Hunter Biden )
To: Salman
Look at their record as managers of the military.
Losers who are attempting to talk about it enough to make it come true.
These are the guys that brought trannies into the military, threatened soldiers with discharge if they did not get the clot-shot, stabbed Trump in the back and would like to run the country without civilian meddling.
The Constitution puts the military under the control of civilians for a good reason.
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posted on
09/06/2022 3:09:07 PM PDT
by
old curmudgeon
(There is no situation so bad that the federal government can not make worse.)
To: All
.
Lindsey Graham and Milley are good friends. Dine together regularly.
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posted on
09/06/2022 3:09:15 PM PDT
by
AnthonySoprano
(Statute of Limitations is going to elapse on Hunter Biden )
To: Salman
Oddly enough, there’s only a strain when Democrats are in charge.
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posted on
09/06/2022 3:09:18 PM PDT
by
\/\/ayne
(I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper)
To: All
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posted on
09/06/2022 3:10:37 PM PDT
by
AnthonySoprano
(Statute of Limitations is going to elapse on Hunter Biden )
To: All
.
These letters are always anti-conservative and anti-freedom.
Like the Hunter’s laptop is Russian Disinformation, trust us.
.
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posted on
09/06/2022 3:12:59 PM PDT
by
AnthonySoprano
(Statute of Limitations is going to elapse on Hunter Biden )
To: sauropod
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posted on
09/06/2022 3:16:49 PM PDT
by
stanne
To: Alas Babylon!
Mattis is a disgrace to his uniform and to his country.
“Mad dog?” Nah, more like a confused General pussy.
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posted on
09/06/2022 3:28:21 PM PDT
by
BatGuano
(2020 = Stolen Election. Believe it! Molon Labe.)
To: Salman
"While the letter does not pinpoint blame on either political party, it notes that the 2020 election was the "first election in over a century when the peaceful transfer of political power was disrupted and in doubt." In doubt.?? Anyone with half a brain has NO doubt that the election was stolen from Trump and the American people.. And we can be certain they will do the same thing in the next one.. The only question is, what the hell are we going to do about it.... :(
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posted on
09/06/2022 3:30:19 PM PDT
by
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